On July 29 2015 09:09 obesechicken13 wrote:
It'd be nice if it were easier to aim for a barrel in the middle of a bunch of units. I'm not sure if Parrley targets barrels at the moment if the cursor is near it.

Reddit seems to think Parrrley priotizes barrels. It would make sense, but I can't honestly tell for sure.

Also that Overpow build is hilarious. Add in a BT over one of the IEs and it's probably actually effective :l

Frudgey

Canada3367 Posts

July 29 2015 00:36 GMT

#843

While I don't play Gangplank myself, I can say that while laning against him if he hits barrels constantly you're going to be in for a rough time. Barrels hurt like mad - even if you're building tanky!

Of course, the problem is actually using the barrels effectively. But if you can do it, then I suspect you'll do well in lane. The one guy I was fighting was hiding his barrels in the bush, which I thought was clever.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

July 29 2015 05:20 GMT

#844

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3ewelj/til_gangplanks_parrrley_prioritizes_1hp_barrels/

Here's the post about low hp barrels getting prioritized over minions and champions.
I think people need to do more tests though. Sometimes you want to shoot a barrel while it still has 2 ticks because you know by the time the shot gets there the barrel will only have 1 tick.

Alternatively what happens if the champion/minion is also low health?

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 03 2015 04:08 GMT

#845

Video on correct barrel usage. I learned something new from it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3fjo5n/since_gangplank_is_alive_again_check_out_this/

If you play a gangplank matchmaking game by the 10th you get a free Captain GP skin or something.

MidnightGladius

China1214 Posts

August 03 2015 16:39 GMT

#846

Very cool, this gives roaming/jungle GP some pretty sweet ganking options if there are any unwarded brushes to set up the first barrel in.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 07 2015 00:22 GMT

#847

Does botrk work with GP's barrels since they apply physical on hit-damage? It's hard to say what the best lifesteal item on GP is but If botrk works on him I think it's up there.
I don't think Shiv is good anymore since you want to trigger harass using barrels more than Q. Often the shiv proc won't be in range of your target because they're going to be on a distant barrel.
I don't think LW is very good. He gets 60% shred anyways and the way armor pen multiplicatively stacks is kind of bad.

Harem

United States11393 Posts

August 07 2015 04:48 GMT

#848

http://www.twitch.tv/c9sneaky

Sneaky is playing GP ADC atm with Lemon as support olaf.

For context on why, he played a game last night as GP top and was laughing hard at how broken he is.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 10 2015 21:54 GMT

#849

So at level 18 barrels do a maximum of 200 bonus damage.
Parrley 120+1.0AD
Triforce gives 30 AD
GP's base AD at 18 is 107
And if you're using AD marks and quints (some crit runes will give you higher expected damage but will lower the consistency and your early game last hitting).
And Runes and masteries give him say another 30

So his total AD is 167
His barrels will deal 701 damage. Which for a 2 ability AoE damage effect (that eats a triforce) isn't too bad.
Even assuming the 60% armor ignore basically makes the ability deal magic damage to squishier targets that have more armor than mr naturally(eg. 90 armor to 30mr), it's more damage than an Orianna has on 1 AP item with just a QW. I remember trading a barrel combo with an Orianna QW and we basically got chunked just as hard.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

August 10 2015 22:14 GMT

#850

It can also crit, which is pretty crazy.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 10 2015 23:41 GMT

#851

On August 11 2015 07:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It can also crit, which is pretty crazy.

But only the Q or auto can crit right, not the bonus damage from E? IE could be core on GP too if he becomes a 1 trick squishy AD Caster.

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

August 11 2015 03:33 GMT

#852

The base damage on the barrel is whatever the crit from the attack itself would have been, so it's no different from a regular crit--except it ignores 60% of their armor. It basically just adds 60% armor ignore to whatever attack is being done and then slaps on 80/110/140/170/200 magic damage on top of that.

So let's say he would have crit for 500 dmg on a parrrley or basic attack.

If he hits a barrel with it, he does 500 dmg physical AoE that ignores 60% armor, then an additional 200 magic on top of that.

Sheen/Triforce also get applied as the physical AoE ignored armor part. The skill is quite ridiculous right now and IE is super core IMO.

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

August 11 2015 07:03 GMT

#853

I agree that E feels really strong, but then you gotta take into consideration that it's the only (I think) ability in the game which the enemy can deny, potentially castrating GP in teamfights. And now that the GP rework is no longer brand new I have indeed started to notice adcs and supports focusing my barrels -_-

Alaric

France45622 Posts

August 11 2015 15:18 GMT

#854

When you build IE and play around E you're already a caster more than anything, you should determine your position and stuff around your cooldowns and not try to sneak melee hits on non-frontliners other than to apply your passive between 2 Parrrleys on a keg.

From what little I've played him, kegs are definitely easier to use if you can entice the enemy team into initiating on you/chasing you than while chasing them (the limit is the Parrrley range so you drop a keg and keep running, then drop others and shoot the first one to trigger them, versus distance covered by the targets during the drops and Parrrley animation).

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 13 2015 02:28 GMT

#855

oops.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 13 2015 02:31 GMT

#856

On August 12 2015 00:18 Alaric wrote:
When you build IE and play around E you're already a caster more than anything, you should determine your position and stuff around your cooldowns and not try to sneak melee hits on non-frontliners other than to apply your passive between 2 Parrrleys on a keg.

From what little I've played him, kegs are definitely easier to use if you can entice the enemy team into initiating on you/chasing you than while chasing them (the limit is the Parrrley range so you drop a keg and keep running, then drop others and shoot the first one to trigger them, versus distance covered by the targets during the drops and Parrrley animation).

Theoretically barrel range is 1200 so if you're chasing you should be able to get someone 1200 units away from you when you start setting up barrels as long as you set up 2-3 barrels (each barrel has 400 range). But in my hands, I do find it easier to hit enemies with barrels when they're chasing me than when I'm chasing them.

Also the in game tooltip says a barrel decay happens every 2 seconds on your first 6 levels. That early delay sucks. I think the scaling should have been 1.5 -> 1 -> .5 but someone at Riot can't really math.

Caiada

United States3052 Posts

August 13 2015 02:55 GMT

#857

They want his 2-5 to suck, but 2s fuse is just painful to play.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 27 2015 06:02 GMT

#858

So I recently learned death's daughter only hits a small circle inside the ult.

I'm not sure, but maybe raise morale or fire at will are better.

Also the new GP's early game is bad right, I'm not just sucky at trading vs Riven all ins? It's really hard for me to give up cs that I can't get because Q is on CD so I keep walking up to auto them and get all-ined.

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

August 27 2015 06:15 GMT

#859

I'd say his laning against melees in general is damn strong. Stand on a barrel in the middle of your creeps and they cant engage on you. If they do, explode barrel, autothem, runaway, repeat. Always good to have another barrel behind you that you can run to afterwards.

obesechicken13

United States10467 Posts

August 27 2015 06:17 GMT

#860

On August 27 2015 15:15 Osmoses wrote:
I'd say his laning against melees in general is damn strong. Stand on a barrel in the middle of your creeps and they cant engage on you. If they do, explode barrel, autothem, runaway, repeat. Always good to have another barrel behind you that you can run to afterwards.

I find most melees can get your barrels before you do at least half the time. Like Shen can literally taunt you and then auto the barrel. The barrel range is 200 radius and many melees have 175 attack range now. Usually I need to use a second barrel to harass melees.