EPTCommunity Feedback Update - Oct 1 - Page 3
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DusTMan
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varsovie
Canada326 Posts
On October 02 2015 01:54 WrathSCII wrote: Swarm Host We hear your feedback in that Swarm Hosts aren't used as much as other units. In Void, they are much stronger compared to the HotS version, so we'd like to take our time to make sure that the unit truly needs to be buffed before making a call. Keep in mind, these types of number tweaks can be done fairly easily, so if you guys could help us test their exact state right now, it'll be extremely helpful. The exact stats aren't hard to figure, just remove the unit completely. | ||
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DusTMan
2 Posts
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
I'd prefer Chrono with the old system I think. | ||
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Dvriel
607 Posts
What is different from HotS that is worth 40€? 12 workers start? TvP is still early guessing game. The macro mechanichs were OK to help us casuals and now they are almost gone... I play T. I play mech in all MUs. In TvT you never see Liberator. This unit is totally useless in TvP as well. Now I use it in TvZ to kill mutas, so I dont need Thors anymore... I almost never see Disruptors.. Lurkers are very rare in TvZ and there is full of Ravager rush almost every TvZ... 40€ for this?? REALLY??? The game is so stressing, forcing you to expand as crazy... I will wait a lot to buy LotV. Maybe when it is 20€ or less and after Blizz see people are not buying it, this will be in January or even Christmas.. This expansión is even worse than HotS... | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada949 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
But I think it is a shame that we did get to see some more extreme testing of ideas. I feel like we were going that way, and then the powers that be said, "get this thing ready for release and we'll fix it later." It is a shame, because I've grown accustomed to the Blizzard model of shipping the initial version of the game in an unfinished state, but then they typically knock it out of the park with the expansions and get it right. Neither D3 or SC2 have come through in that way. Unfortunately what that means is this update just like HotS will be a small bump for a short time and then settle back to the place it is now since there is nothing really going on here that significantly changes anything substantial. | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
not the worst, but still not good. | ||
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
On October 02 2015 02:06 Tsubbi wrote: can anyone explain the logic behind the sh statement? they are not used in the beta even though they are stronger than in hots My guess is the flying ability technically makes their attack way more potent. They are more mobile now, too. But they are funky to use and don't just straight up win games unless you are way ahead, so when I play Zerg I normally don't bother with them either yet. If I had 12 hours a day to play, I'd try them out much more and find builds where they would maybe do great things. | ||
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masonwalkersc2
4 Posts
On October 02 2015 02:06 Tsubbi wrote: can anyone explain the logic behind the sh statement? they are not used in the beta even though they are stronger than in hots The Swarmhost are better, but worst at the same time. The cool down makes them to hard to use. they're a huge investment so if you don't do massive damage with the first few waves, it's gg. Also the air upgrade is terrible vs terran. it's a nerf to go for the air upgrade. Blizzard should consider giving the player the ability to turn on flyer mode vs ground because as it stands right now, if you get the air upgrade, the terran player goes liberator and your sh are useless. | ||
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
Definitely like the newer Chrono the best... I think a few months down the road we can get a UI update to make them easier to keep track of. | ||
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jume
Germany25 Posts
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Blacklizard
United States1194 Posts
On October 02 2015 02:54 DinoMight wrote: For the love of God, please return Chrono Boost to the way that it used to be. The current scenario is a significant nerf to high level users who have the APM and awareness to bank it ON PURPOSE. Having it going all the time is not necessarily helpful. In certain scenarios when I want to rush out a Disruptor or a Colossus, I want to actively save chrono so I can spend it all on my robo. In that case, the current system is an over 50% nerf to HotS while Larva is buffed and MULES are unchanged. Protoss is less unstable with the new chrono... easier to balance. If we keep old chrono, they are going to nerf gateway units again or who knows what. I'd much rather the current chrono, allowing Z and T to defend all-ins slightly easier than not. If there are timings Protoss cannot hold something because they need a faster colossus, they will reduce the time for that colossus/unit being built. All-ins are still possible and strong for Protoss, but more manageable. | ||
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Lsvtecjordan
3 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
Everything was balanced around having max of the old chrono put into it. Now that we're capped at 15% improvement for anything (down from 50%) all build times across the board need to come down. The race is unplayable as it is without the Adept being OP (this will get nerfed). | ||
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TenMin
15 Posts
On October 02 2015 04:09 Lsvtecjordan wrote: This is my 2 cents playing terran is a joke right now! Im getting rekt by bullshit zergs and tosses. please do something for bio or it will litterally disappear from tvz and I'm tired of opening up defensive 1 base ghost just to not die in the early game vs toss, and if they just macro or dont throw away there prism they are just ahead. I love the eco changes enjoy the super fast pace of the game but terran is obviously under powered right now. I never thought I would say this because this is a game I have been playing for more than a decade but if somethign doesn't change I will probably not buy LOTV. I cant even make master in LOTV because there are no terrans for me to play. I die to adept prism rush almost every tvp and even if i defend it im behind. There is a reason there are only 2 gm terrans in the top 16 and they are both koreans. morrow switched to toss because he is tired of opening the same way vs toss everygame. shnitzel terran raged quit the other day because of gg a-move ultras and even Polt is complaining about adepts and he is a multiple WCS champion. Please do something for the maurader vs ultras. "WHAT WAS THAT USE GHOST SURE JUST HAVE A SIEZER ZERG AND MAYBE IT WILL LAND GOOD DESIGN ON THAT SKILL 3 SECONDS IS AN ETERNITY IN SC2. thx for that. the days you could mmm, 1a + t, gg are over. | ||
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Lsvtecjordan
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