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Archon mode may very well be the magic bullet - Page 3

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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 12:44:50
April 01 2015 12:44 GMT
#41
Could be great for people who feel the game mechanical requirements are overwhelming, but for hardcore players like me who like to have control over everything (hardcore doesn't mean good, just dedicated) this archon mode has 0 appeal. I'm OK with every way to bring new people to the player base though.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 01 2015 12:44 GMT
#42
While I'm not completely sold on Archon Mode to save SC2 I still believe it can bring a new fanbase or return an old one to the game to reduce the mechanically demanding side of StarCraft.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
MagnuMizer
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Denmark384 Posts
April 01 2015 12:57 GMT
#43
i think its a great feature, but personally i'm more hyped for the campaign
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
April 01 2015 13:08 GMT
#44
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pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
April 01 2015 13:09 GMT
#45
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On April 01 2015 17:44 fenix404 wrote:
i frequent a lan center for my gaming, one that is open until 3 am at that. i am the lone starcraft player. everyone else plays LoL and DotA, and now heroes of the storm as well. starcraft's learning curve is the biggest wall for new players.

i really hope to magically get access on two accounts somehow. i want to share this with everyone there, and im sure i could make at least 3 people into regular players with this simple game mode. i wish i had more people irl to share this amazing game with...


Will the "Spawning" feature still work in LotV? As long as I buy LotV will I be able to spawn friends in for Archon Mode? Or is that only for Arcade/UMS?

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On April 01 2015 20:52 Kazahk wrote:
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On April 01 2015 15:59 GoShox wrote:
On April 01 2015 15:54 opisska wrote:
I still can't quite grasp how this is now introduced as the greatest invention of all times when the same feature was available in BW 15 years ago.


Imagine how much these people would freak out over the introduction of the ability to play with other people via local area networks!

I know people will bitch about this but LAN is honestly outdated. Most people don't even use ethernet cables anymore, the one thing it was good for was tournament settings. Of course it comes with its own down sides but that is the price you pay for convenience. But really bringing computers within feet of each other to transfer information is so 90's.
EDIT: yes wireless lan can still be used but at that point it isn't to different from battle.net


LAN eliminates the need for B.Net. There will be zero lag - ISP problems? Blizz getting ddos'd? Wouldn't matter if you had some buddies over because you could just disconnect and keep on playing...
"He's like a Kakuna with Flamestrike." - Artosis 25.7.2014 \\ "Sometimes you gotta' be manly to get out of the group stage, Reynad." -Artosis 17.10.2014 \\ “There goes your dream of a frivolous lawsuit with a brewing company.” – Tasteless 26.8.2015
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 13:25:53
April 01 2015 13:19 GMT
#46
The predecessor to Archon Mode, team melee in BroodWar, was one of my favorite aspects of that game. It was also mega awesome in TL Attack, and I'm super happy people are trying it out in LotV now. I don't know if I'd say its a magic bullet of any kind of but it is definitely crazy fun.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Nif
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18 Posts
April 01 2015 13:28 GMT
#47
Yeah this seems relly nice! Hope i get da Beta soon!
//Nifelyo
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
April 01 2015 13:29 GMT
#48
Archon mode MAY very well be the magic bullet


Now it scans.
Bleh.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9391 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 13:34:28
April 01 2015 13:31 GMT
#49
They say the most important way to make a competitive game appeal to casual players is to put them in a team so that not every mistake is entirely their fault, implying they can put more blame on their allies, which is much less stressful.


I actually think that logic is flawed when it comes to online games. Because if you can effectively blame your allies, lots of people are going to blame their allies and that creates an awfull playing experience. The appeal of MOBA's and CS has much more to do with the actual game being a ton simpler to learnand less stresful to play (while maintaining a high skillcap) than the teamgame experience. At least in soloq, the social experience is really awfull.

Yes archon mode can have its charm. If you have 2 friends who are less skilled, they could now have fun playing vs you. And it does indeed reduce the mechanical entrance barrier to the game, which I believe is good.

But w/ regards to playing with random people as teammates, I don't see teamgames as the big solution here. I think its confusing correlation w/ causation.
Instead, the best solution is to make Starcraft a ton easier to learn while maintaining a very high skillcap.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
April 01 2015 14:07 GMT
#50
I am so excited for Archon Mode. I've had several friends who dropped SC2 a while ago who got REALLY EXCITED when I told them about Archon Mode. Can't wait to bring them back to the fold!
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 01 2015 14:24 GMT
#51
I genuinely cannot wait to try this with friends. Combined with the popularity of recent 2v2 tournaments and we might see a comeback for SC2
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 01 2015 14:25 GMT
#52
I'm totally ready to abandon 2v2 with my more causal friends and play this; sounds so much more interesting and fun.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 01 2015 14:35 GMT
#53
Honest opinion : Archon mode is a gimmick and will be forgotten about less than 2 months after release
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
April 01 2015 14:53 GMT
#54
I still play team games every week with my AHGL team. For those who don't ever play team games anymore, it's probably easy to feel archon mode as a gimmick, but I think for those who actively play 2s this mode is going to be a lot of fun, especially for newer players.
HewTheTitan
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada331 Posts
April 01 2015 15:23 GMT
#55
Was watching JP and djWheat play it


You mean the traitor game switchers, back for all the dirty esports money?

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DustinHendrickson
Profile Joined April 2015
1 Post
April 01 2015 15:45 GMT
#56
You guys don't have to wait to play with each other like in Archon mode.

I made a SC1 Game modes Extension mod which has Team Melee as a mode.

Here are all the modes.

-Team Melee [ Teams share control and resources of 1 base, standard melee victory. Just like Archon mode, except you can have more than 2 players on a team. The only draw back is that you have to select a map that has slots for at least the number of players playing. ]

-Capture the Flag [ Capture a set amount of enemy flags to win. ]

-King of the Hill [ Each unit on the hill grants you 1 point, reach the point limit to win. Hill randomly moves around the map. ]

-Greed [ Mine a set amount of minerals first to win. ]

-Slaughter [ Be the first to reach a certain kill count to win. ]

Here's a link to the extension mod!

battlenet://starcraft/map/1/235631
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 01 2015 15:51 GMT
#57
I think I can see an archon league happening. At least, a lot more than a 2v2 league lol.
rip passion
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
April 01 2015 16:01 GMT
#58
On April 01 2015 23:35 Noocta wrote:
Honest opinion : Archon mode is a gimmick and will be forgotten about less than 2 months after release

It was in Brood War 17 years ago and it is not forgotten. Move on.
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HewTheTitan
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 16:18:00
April 01 2015 16:14 GMT
#59
Of course it's okay when a community celebrity says it like Huk or Destiny ^^

Classy.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 01 2015 16:16 GMT
#60
I'm pretty excited about archon mode. for a long time when playing 2v2 with one of my friends we would share unit control and play kind of a crappy version of archon mode with one person controlling the army and the other managing the game
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