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LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 42

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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
BaronVonOwn
Profile Joined April 2011
299 Posts
March 22 2015 18:24 GMT
#821
Not a single meaningful change. I'm not even going to buy this expansion. RIP Starcraft, you will be missed.

User was warned for this post
AFKPuezo
Profile Joined August 2010
183 Posts
March 22 2015 18:45 GMT
#822
On March 23 2015 03:24 BaronVonOwn wrote:
Not a single meaningful change. I'm not even going to buy this expansion. RIP Starcraft, you will be missed.


What kind of changes were you looking for? I think at least the resources-per-base changes they're toying with will be pretty significant.
BroskiDerpman
Profile Joined January 2015
58 Posts
March 23 2015 03:33 GMT
#823
On March 19 2015 22:19 Ace Frehley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 22:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
I was skeptical of the Adept but apparently the pros love it.

So fine by me...





This is probably a sign that a whole new world of protoss bullshit is coming
A brand new chapter to the book


Forever all-ins. XD
READY TO ROLL OUT
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
March 23 2015 03:42 GMT
#824
On March 23 2015 03:45 Cold Warpgates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 03:24 BaronVonOwn wrote:
Not a single meaningful change. I'm not even going to buy this expansion. RIP Starcraft, you will be missed.


What kind of changes were you looking for? I think at least the resources-per-base changes they're toying with will be pretty significant.

all you have to do is wait for professional game designer BaronVonOwn to release his own competing RTS in a couple of years. by then we'll be wondering how we ever tolerated something as amateurish and boorish as starcraft!
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 05:35:40
March 23 2015 03:56 GMT
#825
ohmylanta1003
Profile Joined February 2015
United States128 Posts
March 23 2015 04:03 GMT
#826
On March 23 2015 12:56 usopsama wrote:
Holy shit. Zerg and especially Protoss are so broken. Can't wait for the nerfs to begin.


Any reason for saying this or do you just like to spout bullshit?
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
March 23 2015 04:18 GMT
#827
On March 23 2015 03:24 BaronVonOwn wrote:
Not a single meaningful change. I'm not even going to buy this expansion. RIP Starcraft, you will be missed.

User was warned for this post


I felt HotS was a complete rip off, never brought it. LoTv appears to be a bit better but I'm still firmly on the fence. Like you I'm not sure its enough. 12 workers is pretty much a fast forward button for the game and econ change in mind wont be enough to fix the issues I see in the games.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 04:24:26
March 23 2015 04:24 GMT
#828
On March 23 2015 12:56 usopsama wrote:
Holy shit. Zerg and especially Protoss are so broken. Can't wait for the nerfs to begin.

there's no such thing as "nerfs" in testing, lol, it's just called testing. if some things weren't broken in the beta i would be utterly disappointed that blizzard isn't trying enough radical ideas for things to be breaking.

nothing in this community annoys me more than people who have never developed a game talking about how the dev process should go - specifically this magical world where there are concepts which will work out of the box and fix/improve everything, and how the developers just need to listen to joe blow on a forum but they're too busy bathing in esports dollars
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2661 Posts
March 23 2015 16:34 GMT
#829
So I made a very big and detailed post on the raven and posible changes for it in LotV, I would really like to read any opinions and criticism on it, thanks in advance.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/300yjg/the_raven_a_comprehensive_essay/
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 23 2015 17:01 GMT
#830
Not sure if the mineral changes are the same as they are in the LotV custom map but if they are it's a great change. I like playing the LotV custom map far far more than HotS. Not sure how people can shit on these changes, they radically change the game and address issues that the community has been bitching about for a long time. They're even having an extended beta! It seems like a lot of the time people just bitch cause they like to.
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
March 24 2015 08:59 GMT
#831
I would definitely play it!
And hots
and HS
xD
* Only girls complain about balance! *
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 24 2015 09:08 GMT
#832
It's clearly not the time to talk about balance or design, the early months of beta will be solely used for that purpose and it seems Blizzard is genuinely willing to try out big things and take them out and change them if they're detrimental to the game in the end.

Four things though :

1) I'm concerned that enhancing harass options in a game where expanding will be far more important could turn out really bad.
2) Does the Adept really need to be able to teleport to be an interesting unit ? We already have a teleporting unit and if the Adept becomes massable the fights with all the shades will be very messy. I love the look of the unit (another female unit was really needed !) and how it attacks but I'm unsure about that shade thing.
3) Does anyone else think the disruptor looked far better in the Blizzcon vid and in the LotV custom mod ? I don't really like their choice of colors for that newer video.
4) I REALLY hope the "show the outlines of every unit behind a building" thing is an option. It was something I hated so much in AOE2.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 24 2015 09:24 GMT
#833
On March 19 2015 03:59 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:54 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for more micro friendly units by design like reaver, vulture, banshee, stalker, and passive abilities, not add more spells to already heavily moba inspired game.

I agree. Too many spells.

I hope they get that feedback. Every unit and their brother seems to need a spell or an ability, which is not the way you achieve elegant unit interaction or awesome micro.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 14:37:21
March 24 2015 14:37 GMT
#834
Wrong thread lol.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
JCoto
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain574 Posts
March 24 2015 16:31 GMT
#835
On March 24 2015 18:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 03:59 c0ldfusion wrote:
On March 19 2015 03:54 jinorazi wrote:
i was hoping for more micro friendly units by design like reaver, vulture, banshee, stalker, and passive abilities, not add more spells to already heavily moba inspired game.

I agree. Too many spells.

I hope they get that feedback. Every unit and their brother seems to need a spell or an ability, which is not the way you achieve elegant unit interaction or awesome micro.



I think the same. They should fix micro and micro interactions before flooding the game with strong spells that in the end don't really imply more skill or brain to be used but massing units or "terrible terrible damage" in a bang.

For example, they should start at fixing air micro and how micro clumps and engine pushing priority works, which the great Lalush pointed out. Some air units are quite limited in terms of micro because some standard values are in-built by default at their weapon variables or their movement is simply very standarized. By modifying the allowed movement, cheking no deceleration and changing damage point and giving some angle to the attack, the micro could become farly richer. This has also balance implications that would need to be adjusted. Have you imagined a more mobile Viking with a dynamic move-shooting or a decently microable VoidRay?

Also at "autoballing" caused by the combination of the pathing AI ( who tends to make units march at the same time)+ natural limitator variable present in the editor (Mixed formation diameter) that makes units to autoblob so hardlly. It has been tested by many modders, and with the simple change of the variable, units tend to autoball fairly less, but on the other hand it rended AoE attacks fairly less reliable. This topic was present when HotS came out, but Blizz just ignored.
warbean
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
March 24 2015 16:46 GMT
#836
What happened to the +1 armor to Ultralisk buff? Is that no longer a thing? Are ultralisks going to receive any love at all?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 24 2015 16:54 GMT
#837
On March 25 2015 01:46 warbean wrote:
What happened to the +1 armor to Ultralisk buff? Is that no longer a thing? Are ultralisks going to receive any love at all?


I think changes like that or the marauder double attack could still be in the game without being mentioned here.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 24 2015 17:55 GMT
#838
On March 25 2015 01:46 warbean wrote:
What happened to the +1 armor to Ultralisk buff? Is that no longer a thing? Are ultralisks going to receive any love at all?

Some things aren't mentioned, like Colossi having 1 less range, Ultralisks having +1 armor and Marauders shooting twice. There are probably more, I think that Hydralisk's upgrades are combined into one now and they didn't mention anything about it.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 24 2015 18:51 GMT
#839
On March 25 2015 02:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 01:46 warbean wrote:
What happened to the +1 armor to Ultralisk buff? Is that no longer a thing? Are ultralisks going to receive any love at all?

Some things aren't mentioned, like Colossi having 1 less range, Ultralisks having +1 armor and Marauders shooting twice. There are probably more, I think that Hydralisk's upgrades are combined into one now and they didn't mention anything about it.

Does the marauder still do the same damage with it´s attack? Just shoots twice?
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 24 2015 18:58 GMT
#840
On March 25 2015 03:51 RaFox17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 02:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On March 25 2015 01:46 warbean wrote:
What happened to the +1 armor to Ultralisk buff? Is that no longer a thing? Are ultralisks going to receive any love at all?

Some things aren't mentioned, like Colossi having 1 less range, Ultralisks having +1 armor and Marauders shooting twice. There are probably more, I think that Hydralisk's upgrades are combined into one now and they didn't mention anything about it.

Does the marauder still do the same damage with it´s attack? Just shoots twice?


I thought it was (5+5)x2 at Blizzcon but don't quote me on it
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