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BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic626 Posts
November 27 2014 11:24 GMT
#201
can this be play on any map? i was trying it yestarday night and i coulnt get any new unit.
How may help u?
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
November 27 2014 11:26 GMT
#202
On November 27 2014 20:01 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 19:46 StarscreamG1 wrote:
lol, the ravager.. I really hope they don't get too nerfed cause is a really good unit for the game. But I'm afraid will be

After seeing BasetradeTV, I'd say Roaches either need some sort of upgrade, a morph on the warren, or a longer cooldown for Ravagers.

But they are -SICK- 0_0


Just make ravagers a lair tech unit could be the easiest thing to do
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
November 27 2014 11:47 GMT
#203
On November 27 2014 20:26 FrozenProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 20:01 SC2Toastie wrote:
On November 27 2014 19:46 StarscreamG1 wrote:
lol, the ravager.. I really hope they don't get too nerfed cause is a really good unit for the game. But I'm afraid will be

After seeing BasetradeTV, I'd say Roaches either need some sort of upgrade, a morph on the warren, or a longer cooldown for Ravagers.

But they are -SICK- 0_0


Just make ravagers a lair tech unit could be the easiest thing to do

Dude, they are a lair unit.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 27 2014 11:47 GMT
#204
On November 27 2014 20:47 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 20:26 FrozenProbe wrote:
On November 27 2014 20:01 SC2Toastie wrote:
On November 27 2014 19:46 StarscreamG1 wrote:
lol, the ravager.. I really hope they don't get too nerfed cause is a really good unit for the game. But I'm afraid will be

After seeing BasetradeTV, I'd say Roaches either need some sort of upgrade, a morph on the warren, or a longer cooldown for Ravagers.

But they are -SICK- 0_0


Just make ravagers a lair tech unit could be the easiest thing to do

Dude, they are a lair unit.

Dude, play the mod and watch the games.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
November 27 2014 11:48 GMT
#205
On November 27 2014 20:24 SC2BF3Love wrote:
can this be play on any map? i was trying it yestarday night and i coulnt get any new unit.

Create a custom game using the button "Create with Mod" and then pick that LotV Alpha mod.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 12:07:16
November 27 2014 12:07 GMT
#206
wrong thread
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 12:38:27
November 27 2014 12:38 GMT
#207
On November 27 2014 20:47 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 20:26 FrozenProbe wrote:
On November 27 2014 20:01 SC2Toastie wrote:
On November 27 2014 19:46 StarscreamG1 wrote:
lol, the ravager.. I really hope they don't get too nerfed cause is a really good unit for the game. But I'm afraid will be

After seeing BasetradeTV, I'd say Roaches either need some sort of upgrade, a morph on the warren, or a longer cooldown for Ravagers.

But they are -SICK- 0_0


Just make ravagers a lair tech unit could be the easiest thing to do

Dude, they are a lair unit.

They aren't lair units and never were lair units. In those exhibition matches, Jaedong + Zest had 4 Ravagers while SoO + Polt had like 2 Stalker and 2 Sentries or something like that.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 27 2014 12:39 GMT
#208
My experience of this mod is that blizzard really hates siege tanks.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
November 27 2014 12:44 GMT
#209
On November 27 2014 21:39 royalroadweed wrote:
My experience of this mod is that blizzard really hates siege tanks.

Dropping them seems pretty nice?

However I do agree a small Siege buff when stationary and nerf to portable Siege Mode would be appropriate
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
November 27 2014 12:48 GMT
#210
On November 27 2014 18:31 Lunareste wrote:
holy crap this is AMAZING

Legacy of the Void is already 10x better than HOTS


... no, far from it.
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
November 27 2014 12:57 GMT
#211
On November 27 2014 21:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 18:31 Lunareste wrote:
holy crap this is AMAZING

Legacy of the Void is already 10x better than HOTS


... no, far from it.


100 times you mean?
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
November 27 2014 12:57 GMT
#212
On November 27 2014 21:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 18:31 Lunareste wrote:
holy crap this is AMAZING

Legacy of the Void is already 10x better than HOTS


... no, far from it.

I agree with him, actually. There are balance issues obviously, but even at the relatively low level of the showmatches it's really fun to watch.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9405 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 13:00:34
November 27 2014 12:59 GMT
#213
From watching a couple of games, my expectation of the economy seems to - so fair - be matched with reality. Protoss cannot secure extra bases while investing into harass/offensive units. At least not vs zerg.

Eventually the meta will adapt to the new economy, and protoss will play a lot more defensively in order to secure bases faster, which is likely to stale the game.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
November 27 2014 13:00 GMT
#214
On November 27 2014 21:57 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 27 2014 18:31 Lunareste wrote:
holy crap this is AMAZING

Legacy of the Void is already 10x better than HOTS


... no, far from it.

I agree with him, actually. There are balance issues obviously, but even at the relatively low level of the showmatches it's really fun to watch.


The question here is..

Is it fun because it is good or is it fun because it is new?

Hots was fun too when it was in Beta and nothing was figured and/or set in stone.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
November 27 2014 13:02 GMT
#215
On November 27 2014 21:59 Hider wrote:
From watching a couple of games, my expectation of the economy seems to - so fair - be matched with reality. Protoss cannot secure extra bases while investing into harass/offensive units. At least not vs zerg.

Eventually the meta will adapt to the new economy, and protoss will play a lot more defensively in order to secure bases faster, which is likely to stale the game.

Toss is so far from complete that I don't think it's really worth theorycrafting about them. Still one unit coming and I'd be surprised if we don't see changes to stalkers and zealots.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9405 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 13:14:01
November 27 2014 13:05 GMT
#216
On November 27 2014 22:02 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:59 Hider wrote:
From watching a couple of games, my expectation of the economy seems to - so fair - be matched with reality. Protoss cannot secure extra bases while investing into harass/offensive units. At least not vs zerg.

Eventually the meta will adapt to the new economy, and protoss will play a lot more defensively in order to secure bases faster, which is likely to stale the game.

Toss is so far from complete that I don't think it's really worth theorycrafting about them. Still one unit coming and I'd be surprised if we don't see changes to stalkers and zealots.


David Kim has talked about given them a very early game unit, and I actually think that would be nice, but.... this isn't an issue about unit design. This is a much broader issue which comes down to macromechanics giving protoss a disadvantage relative to zerg while playing a macrogame.

There is no way the immobile race (the race which lacks mapcontrol in the midgame) can defend extra bases while still being able to invest the same amount into offensive units. Either you (a) cut bases in order to be aggressive/investing into harass units, or you (b) cut harass/offensive units, and focus on defensive units that are good at securing additional bases and play a more defensive style.

The latter is by far the most likely scenario to plan out, as the meta develops. This is really a shame, because some of the new micro interactions in the game seems really fun (Disruptor and Ravager).
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 27 2014 13:05 GMT
#217
On November 27 2014 22:00 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:57 Daralii wrote:
On November 27 2014 21:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 27 2014 18:31 Lunareste wrote:
holy crap this is AMAZING

Legacy of the Void is already 10x better than HOTS


... no, far from it.

I agree with him, actually. There are balance issues obviously, but even at the relatively low level of the showmatches it's really fun to watch.


The question here is..

Is it fun because it is good or is it fun because it is new?

Hots was fun too when it was in Beta and nothing was figured and/or set in stone.

But HotS shaped out to be much better than most of the WoL.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12495 Posts
November 27 2014 13:05 GMT
#218
Its like playing the game fresh up again except now I have the mechanics.
The changes to economy is huge, that base depletion rate is crazy fast. It's easy to keep focusing on micro and then you realize the base is close to depleted
Its interesting because now I feel like upgrades come too slowly, I wonder if they scale up the upgrade a little as well, especially ability upgrades
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 27 2014 13:07 GMT
#219
On November 27 2014 21:57 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 27 2014 18:31 Lunareste wrote:
holy crap this is AMAZING

Legacy of the Void is already 10x better than HOTS


... no, far from it.

I agree with him, actually. There are balance issues obviously, but even at the relatively low level of the showmatches it's really fun to watch.


You can do the same goofying in HotS too and it's going to look fun.
Though Ravager and Disruptor/Prism looked very fun from a control perspective.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 27 2014 13:47 GMT
#220
I am looking CatZ vs. State on BasetradeTV, they are playing on Whirlwind, and damn this looks fun. :D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
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