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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 22 2019 14:04 GMT
#61
don’t need 3 if you’re carry has RFC you’re good, also Akali ult lul
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 22 2019 16:28 GMT
#62
If it were up to me I would break RFC into two items because both effects are desirable and would get built.

New RFC=range bonus, yea it’s probably a melee only item now but that’s fine

Change sotd to Monkey King Bar(I don’t remember what it was called in league moonfire spellblade?)= 100% accuracy
Tbh I would prefer mkb to not be a recurve item, but sotd was the most useless item I could think of that builds off offensive items
Carrilord has arrived.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-22 21:12:17
July 22 2019 21:11 GMT
#63
good idea RFC is way too good and it just ups the value of the already absurdly strong recurve bows

at least with the new gunslingers all the negatron items are less bad so the balance is improving
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-22 22:16:31
July 22 2019 22:14 GMT
#64
On July 23 2019 01:28 Slusher wrote:
If it were up to me I would break RFC into two items because both effects are desirable and would get built.

New RFC=range bonus, yea it’s probably a melee only item now but that’s fine

Change sotd to Monkey King Bar(I don’t remember what it was called in league moonfire spellblade?)= 100% accuracy
Tbh I would prefer mkb to not be a recurve item, but sotd was the most useless item I could think of that builds off offensive items

Has been my stance since people found out PD was good, and thusly found out RFC was good.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 23 2019 00:29 GMT
#65
On July 23 2019 07:14 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2019 01:28 Slusher wrote:
If it were up to me I would break RFC into two items because both effects are desirable and would get built.

New RFC=range bonus, yea it’s probably a melee only item now but that’s fine

Change sotd to Monkey King Bar(I don’t remember what it was called in league moonfire spellblade?)= 100% accuracy
Tbh I would prefer mkb to not be a recurve item, but sotd was the most useless item I could think of that builds off offensive items

Has been my stance since people found out PD was good, and thusly found out RFC was good.

I think people figured out RFC was pretty good once they had a Nidalee early game or a Draven later on just wipe their team from a corner. Anti-dodge was really just a bonus until they had their assassin comp get wrecked by a PD carry.

The item definitely needs to be split though. The item is core on every single carry in TFT and just has insanity value for what it is.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
July 23 2019 01:25 GMT
#66
Rolled into NinjaElementals so I ran with it. Ended up with Zed3, Yasuo2, Anivia2, Akali2(and close to making 3), but the game just would not let me get Shen2 for some reason.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 06:54:57
July 23 2019 06:54 GMT
#67
Managed to get blademaster6 gunslinger with kayle2(blademaster) and GP3 to finish off a game. Lucian with shrink, hush rageblade. Didn't need front line to do much more than eat the first few shots, and then invincibility and shrink make short work of anything in the front line.

Working my way out of bronze, couple of first places today got me to just shy of B1.

Getting to a new tier(silver) has never been more exciting for me lol.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
GhostOfPast
Profile Joined July 2019
Finland2 Posts
July 23 2019 11:29 GMT
#68
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
July 24 2019 15:30 GMT
#69
https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/teamfight-tactics-patch-914b-notes
n_n
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 24 2019 17:17 GMT
#70
I was watching Saint play on the pbe while I was playing last night and Poppy was absolutely Nutty, that being said her individual buff made the patch, but the knight buff didn’t, so I would keep an eye out for her as possible carry unit. Otherwise assassin/ninja is definitely still viable, Aatrox probably the strongest carry? Voli is not bad but unlikely to be a carry moving forward.
Carrilord has arrived.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
July 24 2019 17:26 GMT
#71
I see a mix of sorc/elemt/demon to do pretty good.

the fact that Demons didn't got nerf is a sign that lots of ppl will play them.
n_n
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 18:46:22
July 24 2019 18:39 GMT
#72
I disagree Elementals will be on the downswing outside of ninjas where kennen is a requirement. Morg was already the better unit over brand since his nerf and now with sorcs getting a buff and golem getting nerfed again, I would predict demon comps to look at sorcs instead.

I think top tier will probably be
Ninja/ele
4/6 knight with poppy carry and phantom
Demon/sorc
Demon/blade master

Slingers might come back but something has to change both trust and cursed blade nerfs mean they’ll probably really struggle late, but something using the old shell could maybe be good? MF comes to mind but I don’t know how to get to MF because the othe slingers/pirates don’t want her items

Edit: my bad the Voli chain lightning targets nerf didn’t make the patch, he’s definitely still a carry if that is really unchanged
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 24 2019 18:58 GMT
#73
I think I posted my thoughts too soon, 4wild+3assasin with RFC Rengar also interests me, lots to try which is great compared to yesterday
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
July 24 2019 19:56 GMT
#74
Patch thoughts: Crit change is good. Numbers are too small in this game to have multiplicatives like that.

Sorc: Not sure Sorc3 needed a buff. Oh well, another feather in the cap of Wildshifting so I'm not complaining.

Wild: I wonder how high they're going to nudge it, possibly buffing it too much by requiring 4 Wilds.

Morello: Thought it was odd to change it and not red buff too, but red buff is so easy to trigger comparatively.

On July 25 2019 02:17 Slusher wrote:
I was watching Saint play on the pbe while I was playing last night and Poppy was absolutely Nutty, that being said her individual buff made the patch, but the knight buff didn’t, so I would keep an eye out for her as possible carry unit. Otherwise assassin/ninja is definitely still viable, Aatrox probably the strongest carry? Voli is not bad but unlikely to be a carry moving forward.

I don't think Voli is going to vanish from carry territory, just will be a bit slower given how thicc he is.

On July 25 2019 03:39 Slusher wrote:
I disagree Elementals will be on the downswing outside of ninjas where kennen is a requirement. Morg was already the better unit over brand since his nerf and now with sorcs getting a buff and golem getting nerfed again, I would predict demon comps to look at sorcs instead.

I think top tier will probably be
Ninja/ele
4/6 knight with poppy carry and phantom
Demon/sorc
Demon/blade master

Slingers might come back but something has to change both trust and cursed blade nerfs mean they’ll probably really struggle late, but something using the old shell could maybe be good? MF comes to mind but I don’t know how to get to MF because the othe slingers/pirates don’t want her items

Edit: my bad the Voli chain lightning targets nerf didn’t make the patch, he’s definitely still a carry if that is really unchanged

Elementals can still work pretty well with Rangers and eventually transition out of Kennen to Anivia for another Glacial.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 21:23:32
July 24 2019 20:51 GMT
#75
Mark my words rangers are trash

I agree I was wrong on Voli, on PBE chain lightning hit less targets 2/3/5 v 3/4/5 than live but that didn’t ship.

The problem with Elementals is the Units with the exception of Anivia and arguably Kennen are played for their tags, they are carried by the golem. So even a minor nerf to the golem is a significant nerf to Liss and Brand
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 21:25:16
July 24 2019 21:25 GMT
#76
On July 25 2019 05:51 Slusher wrote:
Mark my words rangers are trash

I agree I was wrong on Voli, on PBE chain lightning hit less targets 2/3/5 v 3/4/5 than live but that didn’t ship.

The problem with Elementals is the Units with the exception of Anivia and arguably Kennen are played for their tags, they are carried by the golem. So even a minor nerf to the golem is a significant nerf to Liss and Brand

Rangers seem to be doing alright in Masters soloq.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 24 2019 21:27 GMT
#77
i would say only liss is played for their tags.. problem is getting brand 2 but brand often tops damage charts with no items in my teams
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
July 24 2019 23:52 GMT
#78
On July 25 2019 05:51 Slusher wrote:
Mark my words rangers are trash

I agree I was wrong on Voli, on PBE chain lightning hit less targets 2/3/5 v 3/4/5 than live but that didn’t ship.

The problem with Elementals is the Units with the exception of Anivia and arguably Kennen are played for their tags, they are carried by the golem. So even a minor nerf to the golem is a significant nerf to Liss and Brand

wtf... kennen is the best units in the game.
n_n
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
July 25 2019 00:40 GMT
#79
On July 25 2019 08:52 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2019 05:51 Slusher wrote:
Mark my words rangers are trash

I agree I was wrong on Voli, on PBE chain lightning hit less targets 2/3/5 v 3/4/5 than live but that didn’t ship.

The problem with Elementals is the Units with the exception of Anivia and arguably Kennen are played for their tags, they are carried by the golem. So even a minor nerf to the golem is a significant nerf to Liss and Brand

wtf... kennen is the best units in the game.

Assassin3, Elementalist, and Kennen all got hit this patch - we'll see how long that remains true.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
July 25 2019 11:23 GMT
#80
Kennen ult with morello just shread team. specially with the morello buff

Yordles with a stack kennen is pretty strong.
n_n
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