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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
Uhhhh, just noticed Ashe said shit basically near the beginning. Ooops. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I guess they are the problem, but RFC is the decider of who's voli or ninja comp wins | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 21 2019 11:55 AdsMoFro wrote: Game has devolved into Assassin/Ninja comp vs Brawler/Voli comp. If the Voli comp gets PD its GG you mean you recently lost a few games to those comps or are they actually opbecause brawler voli sounds meh and assassin ninja relies a lot on rng (crits+assassin jumps) and not as strong lategame because no cc i mean there are a ton of strong busted things you can do i havent noticed any one thing being particularly strong, because once 2+ people are trying to force the same comp you never get 3 stars and are stuck on 1stars for some key rare units a lot of the time scip often avoids the popular comps and just hard pivots to something like 6 yordles or blademaster demon or something and wins anyway | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On July 21 2019 21:20 Slayer91 wrote: you mean you recently lost a few games to those comps or are they actually opbecause brawler voli sounds meh and assassin ninja relies a lot on rng (crits+assassin jumps) and not as strong lategame because no cc i mean there are a ton of strong busted things you can do i havent noticed any one thing being particularly strong, because once 2+ people are trying to force the same comp you never get 3 stars and are stuck on 1stars for some key rare units a lot of the time scip often avoids the popular comps and just hard pivots to something like 6 yordles or blademaster demon or something and wins anyway Ninja/6Assassin or Elemental and Brawlerbear are literally the two strongest builds in the current meta that don't rely on crazy amount of items. Ninja's doesn't rely on RNG because a spell spamming Akali can deal out *plenty* of damage even if her spell doesn't crit. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
For the items carry, it really depends which carry u are talking about... like trist or akali or karthus, etc.. will all use different thing. ex: in my yordles game, I stack lulu with seraph + 2 shojin and she was ulting every sec. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 21 2019 21:40 Gahlo wrote: Ninja/6Assassin or Elemental and Brawlerbear are literally the two strongest builds in the current meta that don't rely on crazy amount of items. Ninja's doesn't rely on RNG because a spell spamming Akali can deal out *plenty* of damage even if her spell doesn't crit. do you have any evidence to show they are the strongest? i mean i literally don't see anyone complain about it except a few guys here about assassins, and volibear normally is paired with glacial when you want him to carry # i'm not saying those comps are weak but there are tons of strong stuff, okay you need some items but you can decide what to do partially based on early items rangesr +elemental/guardian something like that some kind of demon comp blademasters with stacked draven gunslingers + anything else nobles if you can get something else with damage like draven or good items on lucian yordles sorcs are still scary wild shapeshifters still good, you can hit sorcs demons or dragons to go with it imperials + anything if you hit the 4 mark and 2 star draven void assassins is still probably scary early with chogath+kassadin behind the assassins i don't think ive ever seen anyone go brawlerbear and rarely do i see people hit 4ninjas either in healthy enough state to win (yeah if you get assassins early its a good transition but still rely on hitting akali and 3 akali ideally) right now what i see being the most popular (usally 2 guys going at least one of these per game) is gunslinger/pirates rangers/glacial demons with anything draven based comps (imperal//blademaster) most annoying thing about the draven guys is they have some random weak comp with good items then sell and stack the draven and he has like BT+1-2 other items and just carries gunslingers arent even item dependent now because of the latest patch you can get ANY on hit items (shrink, silence, disarm, redbuff, titanic) as well as the normal good attack speed items (RFC, shiv, rageblade) | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
for sur eyou can go against them and beat them but in general, those two comp are the best way to go if you got the items/card. for your exemple of draven carry. 1 or 2 crit for the zed or akali and he die. gunslinger are good but they need items otherwise, voli with RFC and is front line won't die quick enough. everything can work but those two comp are currently the top tier. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On July 22 2019 00:49 Slayer91 wrote: do you have any evidence to show they are the strongest? i mean i literally don't see anyone complain about it except a few guys here about assassins, and volibear normally is paired with glacial when you want him to carry # i'm not saying those comps are weak but there are tons of strong stuff, okay you need some items but you can decide what to do partially based on early items rangesr +elemental/guardian something like that some kind of demon comp blademasters with stacked draven gunslingers + anything else nobles if you can get something else with damage like draven or good items on lucian yordles sorcs are still scary wild shapeshifters still good, you can hit sorcs demons or dragons to go with it imperials + anything if you hit the 4 mark and 2 star draven void assassins is still probably scary early with chogath+kassadin behind the assassins i don't think ive ever seen anyone go brawlerbear and rarely do i see people hit 4ninjas either in healthy enough state to win (yeah if you get assassins early its a good transition but still rely on hitting akali and 3 akali ideally) right now what i see being the most popular (usally 2 guys going at least one of these per game) is gunslinger/pirates rangers/glacial demons with anything draven based comps (imperal//blademaster) most annoying thing about the draven guys is they have some random weak comp with good items then sell and stack the draven and he has like BT+1-2 other items and just carries gunslingers arent even item dependent now because of the latest patch you can get ANY on hit items (shrink, silence, disarm, redbuff, titanic) as well as the normal good attack speed items (RFC, shiv, rageblade) High elo soloque, Twitch Rivals, etc. I'm not disagreeing that there's other stuff to play, but acting like those aren't premier builds is plain silly. I spend a good amount of time on the TFT subreddit so it could just be an exposure thing. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
i just havent seen those comps that much at all in any videos or games i'm not sure if its even possible to tell this early that those comps are op | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
The problem is, Volibear is the only carry that can live through Assassin/Ninja, people say "just buy PD lol" but RFC crits through PD, and Akali ulti Crits trough PD and Dragonclaw because why wouldn't it lol. 4 Gunslinger with onhit items on your yolked trist is honorable mention, and beats these comps in the midgame, but once they complete their exodia you just fall off a cliff I just want to add as an aside RFC is still required even if your opponents don't go PD, assasin/ninja is 6/7 melee so making your Zed ranged increases his dps uptime by inredible amounts People keep saying Voli needs RFC, but it's equally true for Zed, their corner comp can randomly zone you out and kill you with a Draven, but if your Zed is ranged it eliminates RNG round losses. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.redd.it/9zcj5ansxob31.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316033886155178024/602395028681261058/buildabear.jpg) | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On July 21 2019 11:55 AdsMoFro wrote: Game has devolved into Assassin/Ninja comp vs Brawler/Voli comp. If the Voli comp gets PD its GG it feels so bad man. all my interest in the ladder evaporated when 4 people were running ninjas or eles every game On July 21 2019 23:06 JimmiC wrote: I Think I'm not doing as good as could with items. What are the best combos of items to stick on guys you pick as carries? dragon claw + PD is very good on most things, voli, akali, aatrox, gnar, swain. akali wants seraphs. volibear wants RFC. locket or starks stacking is good on most things. cursed blade & red buff are good on gunslingers. mages want morellos and tears On July 22 2019 01:54 Slayer91 wrote: i mean im not in high elo solo q or following that so maybe im wrong i just havent seen those comps that much at all in any videos or games i'm not sure if its even possible to tell this early that those comps are op its been everywhere this weekend in gold+ for me. every game has 4 players forcing ninjas or eles | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
btw, is there a patch coming this week ? I hear about it but I don't know if it's true. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On July 22 2019 21:10 FaCE_1 wrote: yeah, rfc is good vs yordles but probably won't have 3 of them so you have a fair chance. btw, is there a patch coming this week ? I hear about it but I don't know if it's true. The plan I've seen is weekly patches. Big patches with things like new champs when League patches and small patches with meta tweaks during the off week. | ||
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