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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 27 2019 11:36 GMT
#101
On July 27 2019 11:45 iCanada wrote:
I think it's both. The units in their own are too strong, but then they also just hard counter every other unit in the game with their tribe ability aside from auto attackers that need to to rush demons on first to not lose.

Is it just me being awful, or is econing with loss streaks just bad in TFT compared to other auto chess'? I just feel like even if you narrowly lose 5 fights you're kinda hooped. I dunno, I feel far more successful when I just smash the D key.

Also I think Poppy is severely underrated. She gets pretty much zero pick contention. By far the easiest champion to get 3 star with.

Econ is basically dead right now unless the entire lobby handshakes on playing a slow game. Player damage is high and right now if you just power level you just bowl over people that are trying to play slow - especially if you can keep on a winstreak.

Poppy is underrated right now because because she was the Fiora or Yordles, and she's better now, but Knights are trash so she's only really playable in Yordle comps.

Next patch is gonna be a spicy one.

JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 27 2019 13:02 GMT
#102
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-27 13:47:59
July 27 2019 13:43 GMT
#103
On July 27 2019 12:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
Poppy's strong as hell. The knight bonus is just bad. I'm seeing her thrown into more comps as a one off mid game but later she's competing against Sej, cho'gath and leona who all have better bonuses.

Loss streaks suck. You lose too much hp and you get a gold for winning the round.


if knights were as good as demons their buff would seem op, problem is they have no damage and the cc isn't good enough to compete with anything that has generic cc melee front line and damage or aoe backline


they don't even beat assassins who they should crush just by general design

brand morgana varus aatrox and swain all have spells that let them compete for top of damage charts without any items and are useful even level1, the only bad units are eve and elise, and eve allows you to de-mana their ranged guys and elise isn't that bad if you get the transform spiders tanking everything (also good player damage from spiderlings).

Not to mention if you get swain+elise you just need a gnar for shapeshifter buff as well as having the busted gnar

and you don't even need the swain to hit 6 demons, if you get the other. AND you get good benefit from 2 or 4 demons if you don't 6.

compare to knights which are garbage midgame unless you get at least 4 with some good damage behind and nobles who are garbage until 6


granted both are good early which I guess was the design
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
July 27 2019 14:10 GMT
#104
Demons make the best knights bad. Sej is never ulting vs demons. Poppy and especially Kayle can probably get an ult off but not always before they get burned.

I'm surprised to see Ranger and Pirate buffs but I'm interested to see what they change.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
July 27 2019 19:28 GMT
#105
i don't understand that they want to buff yasuo o.o

ranger will maybe be a thing again if 2 of them get a buff (even tough vayne is still bad)

interested too see what the rework will be.
n_n
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 27 2019 21:55 GMT
#106
Well the problem is the buff gives attack speed but the high cost units are casters
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 28 2019 00:37 GMT
#107
On July 27 2019 23:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Demons make the best knights bad. Sej is never ulting vs demons. Poppy and especially Kayle can probably get an ult off but not always before they get burned.

I'm surprised to see Ranger and Pirate buffs but I'm interested to see what they change.

I've heard pirate is removing the ability to get 0 gold, but I haven't seen any confirmation.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-28 03:26:15
July 28 2019 03:25 GMT
#108
On July 28 2019 09:37 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 23:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Demons make the best knights bad. Sej is never ulting vs demons. Poppy and especially Kayle can probably get an ult off but not always before they get burned.

I'm surprised to see Ranger and Pirate buffs but I'm interested to see what they change.

I've heard pirate is removing the ability to get 0 gold, but I haven't seen any confirmation.


That makes running Pirate for a few rounds to bump up economy to set up some rolls really good again!
Que Sera Sera
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 28 2019 09:04 GMT
#109
Assassin Swain is the most broken thing I've ever seen. Lol. Got a ghostblade from Rift Herald, was tied for first with 8 hp... Assassin Swain is Akali with ult on autos and Kennen ultimate. So dirty.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 28 2019 22:05 GMT
#110
Not looking forward to the pirate buff only because its my main start and if it becomes a decent pick up ill have to fight for it.

I am interested to see how they buff knights and nobles given that both comps need improvement.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 28 2019 22:30 GMT
#111
On July 29 2019 07:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Not looking forward to the pirate buff only because its my main start and if it becomes a decent pick up ill have to fight for it.

I am interested to see how they buff knights and nobles given that both comps need improvement.

Unless you're going for 3stars it really shouldn't matter given that there's 39 Graves, 26 of both Pyke and TF, and 21 GP. Literally everybody could run Pirates.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 29 2019 00:07 GMT
#112
On pbe at least noble buff has bonus mr and knights scale to 100 flat block
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2019 01:00 GMT
#113
I wish there was a site that scrapes PBE for TFT.
playTOKIGAMES
Profile Joined April 2019
4 Posts
July 29 2019 04:25 GMT
#114
I was just thinking about getting into TFT, after playing the original dac. I've only played LoL quite a while back tho, how important is understanding what each champ does from the actual game?

Or d'you just need to have a general knowledge of what the characters do? Like, i see Ahri and i think that she's just basically going to throw spells at everyone.
TURNING FANS INTO PLAYERS
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 29 2019 05:11 GMT
#115
On July 29 2019 13:25 playTOKIGAMES wrote:
I was just thinking about getting into TFT, after playing the original dac. I've only played LoL quite a while back tho, how important is understanding what each champ does from the actual game?

Or d'you just need to have a general knowledge of what the characters do? Like, i see Ahri and i think that she's just basically going to throw spells at everyone.

I mean it's a relatively small roster, and everybody only has one ability so you'd probably be fine with just what you know in general about autochess. It'll take a few days to learn the meta and all the abilities/items, but once you do it'll be fine.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 29 2019 13:34 GMT
#116
I've discovered the secret to winning; build as many Statik shivs as you can. Hopefully you put them on Rangers with glacial support, but like worst case you put them on like gunslingers blademasters or assassins or brawlers or elementalists or sorcerers or shapeshifters ir guardians or Knights and you'll be fine as long as you have the most shivs.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
July 29 2019 16:13 GMT
#117
On July 29 2019 13:25 playTOKIGAMES wrote:
I was just thinking about getting into TFT, after playing the original dac. I've only played LoL quite a while back tho, how important is understanding what each champ does from the actual game?

Or d'you just need to have a general knowledge of what the characters do? Like, i see Ahri and i think that she's just basically going to throw spells at everyone.


Considering only 1 ability is taken from the game, its not that important. Quick to learn and since the entire roster hasn't been added to TFT you don't even have the 140 odd champs to memorise just about 40-ish.
Que Sera Sera
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 29 2019 18:16 GMT
#118
On July 29 2019 22:34 iCanada wrote:
I've discovered the secret to winning; build as many Statik shivs as you can. Hopefully you put them on Rangers with glacial support, but like worst case you put them on like gunslingers blademasters or assassins or brawlers or elementalists or sorcerers or shapeshifters ir guardians or Knights and you'll be fine as long as you have the most shivs.

Shiv stacking I think is mediocre on non-ranger/blademaster. Doesn't stack with gunslinger attacks(only counts as one attack), and a lot of the other champs don't have good enough bAS to make stacking attack speed super good. It is probably top3 early game items though, as 2 procs are almost guaranteed for damage equivalent to most level 1 ults.

That being said, shiv on blademaster rangers can be pretty insane. So much AOE damage once they get going.

Porouscloud - NA LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 29 2019 19:15 GMT
#119
On July 30 2019 03:16 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2019 22:34 iCanada wrote:
I've discovered the secret to winning; build as many Statik shivs as you can. Hopefully you put them on Rangers with glacial support, but like worst case you put them on like gunslingers blademasters or assassins or brawlers or elementalists or sorcerers or shapeshifters ir guardians or Knights and you'll be fine as long as you have the most shivs.

Shiv stacking I think is mediocre on non-ranger/blademaster. Doesn't stack with gunslinger attacks(only counts as one attack), and a lot of the other champs don't have good enough bAS to make stacking attack speed super good. It is probably top3 early game items though, as 2 procs are almost guaranteed for damage equivalent to most level 1 ults.

That being said, shiv on blademaster rangers can be pretty insane. So much AOE damage once they get going.



On the contrary, Gnar has the same base attack speed as Ashe and Wild buff is statistically identical to Ranger buff. Only thing is you have to drag one of nid/WW/Shri/rango around.

But really, try it. Just been building lots of them on everything, works well. Even if it's not synergetic it's just so good early game that it's pretty much free top4.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2019 22:50 GMT
#120
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