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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
June 01 2017 13:51 GMT
#281
http://www.lolesports.com/en_US/articles/evolution-of-the-na-lcs

So...
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 01 2017 14:13 GMT
#282
I'm conflicted about the changes. I'm not convinced the penalties for shitty teams will be sufficient with the absence of relegation in the future, so I can see a situation of four or five orgs that don't even try to do well and take turns in 9th and 10th place...

At the same time, the added stability is probably a good incentive for owners who are willing to invest big time in an attempt to become a top team, thus increasing competition at the top.

I guess I'm mildly hopeful overall for the changes. NA really needs more teams giving C9 and TSM a run for their money if they want to win Worlds at some point, and the old system clearly wasn't managing to give them that competition.
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
June 01 2017 17:34 GMT
#283
Now I might have read incorrectly, but it looks like all revenue from teams will be distributed by Riot. Is that correct?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 01 2017 18:32 GMT
#284
On June 02 2017 02:34 Fildun wrote:
Now I might have read incorrectly, but it looks like all revenue from teams will be distributed by Riot. Is that correct?

As according to the franchise agreement. Media Rights/Distrobution should be an overwhelming portion of the income pool.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2017 18:33 GMT
#285
The cancellation of a franchise clause seems pretty lenient. Other than that it looks exactly like how I would have anticipated a franchise system looks, and the rest of the revenue sharing is things the LCS should have done starting in S4.
Freeeeeeedom
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
June 01 2017 20:16 GMT
#286
On June 02 2017 02:34 Fildun wrote:
Now I might have read incorrectly, but it looks like all revenue from teams will be distributed by Riot. Is that correct?


nope

Only a portion of revenues that a team makes is added to the revenue pool. Teams will retain a large portion of any sponsorship they help to sell, just as they keep a piece of all merch sales, before their sharing contribution is calculated. This is where business-savvy teams can start to earn more than other teams in the field, but it still aligns teams to work together to grow league revenues as a whole.


Riot will keep a chunk of the revenue they generate
Teams will keep a chunk of the revenue they generate as well.

The other chunks will be added to the pool to be distributed

So TSM will probably still make more money than the other teams, but they will also give up a larger chunk of it to support the league in general. Same thing as regular sports where the rich teams sorta give money to the poor teams they beat up on. Not enough to stop being rich, but enough to maintain a little bit of parity

makes sense because without the poor teams there is no league for the rich teams to sell themselves and make money.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2017 21:50 GMT
#287
Gonna be a shit show because most teams have non-Lol properties
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 01 2017 23:02 GMT
#288
Not really, because most team merch that is league centric is obviously so. TSM Bjergsen jersey? That's going in the pool. TSM Leffen? Nah bruh.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2017 23:20 GMT
#289
What about these:

https://store.solomid.net/collections/playoffs-2017/products/2017-black-and-grey-trucker
https://store.solomid.net/collections/sweaters/products/2015-grey-player-hoodie-with-name
https://store.solomid.net/collections/sweaters/products/fk-it-baylife-hoodie
https://store.solomid.net/collections/sweaters/products/tsm-jacket
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 01 2017 23:28 GMT
#290
Hat doesn't have League specific branding.

Hoodies are based on player name.

FK IT Baylife isn't, but I could see an argument on it being so because of the time TSM started using that phrase. That would come down to how far Riot wants to nitpick, but I don't think it'd be much of an impact anyway.

The jackets no, because they aren't League specific branded(comfy as fuck though).
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2017 23:51 GMT
#291
I think you are being extremely optimistic about how narrowly riot will define lol-related merch. Based on historic patterns they would be assert 3/4 of those are lol merch
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 01 2017 23:55 GMT
#292
This isn't just Riot's show anymore.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2017 00:50 GMT
#293
Which is why the nitty-gritty of negotiations is gonna be a shit show. Also, you have to account for less popular teams wanting to define more things as League-Related vs. more popular teams wanting more outside of those definitions.

Its gonna be great popcorn.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 02 2017 01:04 GMT
#294
Streaming rights and distribution will blow merch out of the water. I don't think it's a hill teams are willing to die on.
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
June 02 2017 05:20 GMT
#295
sponsorships are still gonna be quite a bit of money. For teams where other games generate a lot of thier eyeballs, it could definitely be a sticking point. Something like liquid's DOTA and CSGO teams probably account for more of their fans thier LoL team at this point.

how do you tell if the money say, Razer, is giving Liquid is LoL money or Dota/Csgo/whatever money?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
June 02 2017 12:46 GMT
#296
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
June 02 2017 13:04 GMT
#297
I hope this is satire

https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/echo-fox-challenger-imaqtpie-dyrus-14987
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 02 2017 13:11 GMT
#298
Just checked the twitters of all the players/MarkZ outside of Shiphtur and none of them have any mention of this or EF.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-02 13:18:45
June 02 2017 13:15 GMT
#299
The guy who wrote it said it isn't satire, and here's someone else saying it. He has a tick so it much be true. :shrug:



Oh, there's this.



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'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-02 13:50:10
June 02 2017 13:43 GMT
#300
This is actually insanely smart. Qtpie has mentioned time and time again that he missed the feel of competition but not the lifestyle compared to what he has now. If NACS is going into a farm league for teams instead of a super serious competition it makes sense to have a time in there that you can use for publicity as well as scratching the itch on your players that aren't quite up to the gruel of the top flight.

So now they have an inhouse team they practice with. The actual LCS team and this NACS team. I've been critical of EF for keeping Keith but these moves seem pretty dam solid.

Fuck I'm hyped as shit man.

edit: @Krepo - Situation is really shit man. It's hard from the outside to know what actually went down. If it was just an honest mistake of trusting this girl in consensual exchange then I feel for him. Hope he bounces back, sex is something everyone does and we shouldn't be vilified for consenting adults. If it was more malicious then steps should be taken beyond him stepping down.
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