EPTThey have one of the most talented rosters in the LPL, I'd put it on par with the likes of RNG even. But the team is a clown fest. Sofm is ridiculously talented, his Lee Sin and Graves are godlike, but at the same time he's probably one of the most toxic players I have seen in a while in the pro scene, he plays like it's soloQ. And they've made some really strange changes to the team, Krystal support, grabbing Ohq for now reason etc. They beat VG to an absolute pulp, they looked like they could be vying for the top of LPL, instead they were fighting in relegation...
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
They have one of the most talented rosters in the LPL, I'd put it on par with the likes of RNG even. But the team is a clown fest. Sofm is ridiculously talented, his Lee Sin and Graves are godlike, but at the same time he's probably one of the most toxic players I have seen in a while in the pro scene, he plays like it's soloQ. And they've made some really strange changes to the team, Krystal support, grabbing Ohq for now reason etc. They beat VG to an absolute pulp, they looked like they could be vying for the top of LPL, instead they were fighting in relegation... | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 26 2017 05:14 Gahlo wrote: I still hold that NA at MSI was nerfed due to TSM not being able to use Doublelift. Hmm, DoubleLift or WildTurtle... | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On May 26 2017 05:14 Gahlo wrote: I still hold that NA at MSI was nerfed due to TSM not being able to use Doublelift. I mean, that goes without saying. Even if DL wasn't superior both in terms of mechanics and positioning (which he is), TSM losing its main shotcaller for all of Spring Split + MSI was a major handicap. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
How WildTurtle is not utter kryptonite to LCS teams yet is beyond me. Or perhaps that just says something about the quality of players currently in the NA scene. I basically equate Turtle to KiwiKid status. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5151 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On May 26 2017 10:02 NeoIllusions wrote: Goodbye Altec? How WildTurtle is not utter kryptonite to LCS teams yet is beyond me. Or perhaps that just says something about the quality of players currently in the NA scene. I basically equate Turtle to KiwiKid status. Well, who would you take over Turtle? The only players clearly better than him aren't leaving their teams and importing ADC isn't the best idea. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Someone remind me of some games Altec did poorly so I can at least compare them with Turtle at MSI. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
Not sure you can compare MSI games due to opposition skill. The fact that he goes to Flyquest instead of another team that is in desperate need like Echo Fox is dissapointing. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
EF apparently just picked up MashMe. | ||
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On May 26 2017 10:57 NeoIllusions wrote: Was Altec truly that bad? I've always cheered for him, despite everyone else meme'ing him on discord. Someone remind me of some games Altec did poorly so I can at least compare them with Turtle at MSI. Altec vs. WT? In terms of in-game performance, I think I'd take Altec; at least he's decent in the laning phase. Still, everyone always hails WT as being a great teammate and just a really nice guy, and he has tons of experience, he knows the inner workings of NA's most successful org, he doesn't choke under pressure... I dunno. On paper I'd go with Altec, but maybe Altec wasn't a good fit for Flyquest, and maybe Hai, Lemon and Balls are good friends with Turtle- WT was briefly part of C9/Quantic waaaay back when C9 was still a challenger team called Quantic. EDIT: Reginald wrote: In light of this departure, we are still resolute in our commitment to run a six man roster for the Summer Split. As such, we are announcing our search for a second AD Carry to replace WildTurtle. To recapitulate our goals: we are aiming to have a team dynamic similar to that of C9’s Impact/Ray. Damn, looks like Regi's really pissed off at DL for skipping Spring Split. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On May 26 2017 03:21 Zato-1 wrote: I'm actually fairly excited for Rift Rivals. On paper, I view NA as being stronger than EU of late, and yet EU always manages to go deeper into Worlds than NA, and now they finished much stronger in MSI. Some head-to-head NA vs. EU action sounds like a lot of fun to me. This is actually a very interesting phenomenon. EU has always done better than NA at international events, but NA has done better in the head to head. For example at last worlds, EU went 0-4 to NA but had a team get to semis. I think that just proves that H2K had literally the easiest draw of all time in Worlds. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On May 26 2017 22:19 Zato-1 wrote: Damn, looks like Regi's really pissed off at DL for skipping Spring Split. If DL felt he really needed the break, Spring split is the best time to take that break. Summer has traditionally been the try hard split. Riot has made the Spring split slowly count more but summer has always been the split where people turn it up a notch. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On May 27 2017 00:08 GrandInquisitor wrote: This is actually a very interesting phenomenon. EU has always done better than NA at international events, but NA has done better in the head to head. For example at last worlds, EU went 0-4 to NA but had a team get to semis. I think that just proves that H2K had literally the easiest draw of all time in Worlds. Has NA actually done better in the head to head overall? I think EU should be favoured if you include the lower tier teams, NA usually can only make one good team. In recent times NA has it sure, but a lot of that is on G2 not performing until just now. The last battle of the atlantic, although that was long ago, EU went 3-2. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
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