EPT[Patch 6.24] Camille General Discussion - Page 9
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Slusher
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On December 22 2016 03:16 kongoline wrote: wut toplaner missing cs because hes filling bot shouldnt happen unless he sucks in general No I mean that if you're a top main but playing some other role, it's often hard to see how bad your top laner is fucking up unless he is straight int'ing his lane. But if you're a jungle main playing another role, it's very easy to see how terrible your jungler is even without watching him directly. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 22 2016 05:34 Fildun wrote: I'd say the Tahm game VA linked would fall under difference in teamcomps, yours was much easier to teamfight with than theirs, because the enemy team was both very squishy against twitch and didn't have a whole lot of dive that Tahm W couldn't handle. the end screen I guess doesn't really illustrate the point I was trying to make. That lee sin completely dominated the entire game, and our elise couldnt land a single cocoon. pretty sure our mid was legit 0-6-0 at one point. Elise was down 3 levels. But we had an adc that knew what he was doing and they didnt, so 20 minutes of complete outclass are instantly negated. I wonder who that lee is anyway, obvious bought account/super smurf | ||
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JimmiC
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General_Winter
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JimmiC
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On December 22 2016 07:12 JimmiC wrote: Yeah but if u got bumped from your main it's not likely they they got bumped from their main into jungle. It is more likely that it is there main. And it would take quite a fluke for them to fill into your main. Why would they not just fill into your secondary? I don't think that whether you are in your secondary affects the probability of whether anyone else is in their secondary. The way I think it works was, let's say you are jungle/mid and you found a lobby with a duo bot and a solo top. You get soft-locked into that lobby while the game looks for someone else to slot in. Now if someone queued for [anything other than mid]/jungle comes along in your MMR, they get slotted into your game depending on how long the queue has been. More generally, I mean, you can't take the efficient MMR hypothesis too far. Sometimes people have bad games. Sometimes you get mismatched games where you have the stronger mid and a weaker jungler to compensate. And although across all games, you are statistically likely to have junglers approximately as strong as you, in any particular game, it's very possible for you to have a jungler considerably worse than what you would have done. Of course, the fundamental attribution error also makes it much easier for you to spot their mistakes than your own mistakes, so you always think people are worse than yourself. But it doesn't change the fact that of all players forced offrole, it's usually the junglers that can most easily spot the mistakes of their replacement, because a jungler's screwups affect the game on a global/macro level rather than just local. | ||
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JimmiC
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8649 Posts
there was another thread in this site where someone asked how often everyone dodges and i was amazed to see how proudly so many stated they dodged. stop being pussies and just play the game, even if youre shit at the champ or role you get. how do you expect to improve at the game if youre only playing the same 3-4 champions in the same role for an entire season. yeah you hit diamond, but that doesnt make you a diamond player. it just means you can play at diamond level ONLY when you get the champs you want. every other time youre a gold player. amazing how lol branched off from dota but the mentality of lol players are so different. no dota player would dodge a game because they didnt get mid lane or their invoker got stolen. play every lane, role, champ etc and learn the game properly. korean pros/challengers are correct when they say "mains" are stupid. you cant be a good player when youre only good at 1 champ/role | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 22 2016 11:44 evilfatsh1t wrote: stop being pussies and just play the game, even if youre shit at the champ or role you get. how do you expect to improve at the game if youre only playing the same 3-4 champions in the same role for an entire season. yeah you hit diamond doing that you hit the wall at around high challenger | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8649 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 22 2016 11:59 evilfatsh1t wrote: ? not sure what youre trying to say He's saying play the same champ every game all day every day. But in Scips native language. | ||
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JimmiC
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On December 22 2016 11:44 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont get why people think dodging is an answer. there was another thread in this site where someone asked how often everyone dodges and i was amazed to see how proudly so many stated they dodged. stop being pussies and just play the game, even if youre shit at the champ or role you get. how do you expect to improve at the game if youre only playing the same 3-4 champions in the same role for an entire season. yeah you hit diamond, but that doesnt make you a diamond player. it just means you can play at diamond level ONLY when you get the champs you want. every other time youre a gold player. amazing how lol branched off from dota but the mentality of lol players are so different. no dota player would dodge a game because they didnt get mid lane or their invoker got stolen. play every lane, role, champ etc and learn the game properly. korean pros/challengers are correct when they say "mains" are stupid. you cant be a good player when youre only good at 1 champ/role if i'm not going to have fun playing a game with a different champion or role i'm simply not going to play it at all. and literally nobody says that the ideal way to improve is to play as many characters as possible. it's a pretty surefire way to get better if you have an extremely small champion pool. the things you need to learn to climb to a reasonably high elo are all independent of the character you are playing. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 22 2016 15:05 JonGalt wrote: It's Elo. Not ELO. Look at this guy, showing up since who knows how long and thinking we wouldn't notice him. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 22 2016 11:44 evilfatsh1t wrote: i dont get why people think dodging is an answer. there was another thread in this site where someone asked how often everyone dodges and i was amazed to see how proudly so many stated they dodged. stop being pussies and just play the game, even if youre shit at the champ or role you get. how do you expect to improve at the game if youre only playing the same 3-4 champions in the same role for an entire season. yeah you hit diamond, but that doesnt make you a diamond player. it just means you can play at diamond level ONLY when you get the champs you want. every other time youre a gold player. amazing how lol branched off from dota but the mentality of lol players are so different. no dota player would dodge a game because they didnt get mid lane or their invoker got stolen. play every lane, role, champ etc and learn the game properly. korean pros/challengers are correct when they say "mains" are stupid. you cant be a good player when youre only good at 1 champ/role I'm guessing you don't work or are still in school or something? No one in their right mind would have this attitude with limited free time. Dodging is necessary if you're trying to climb on a time budget. I don't have time to waste 30+ minutes with some clown that mains volibear jungle but got autofilled support. Just an example that happens often but there are a plethora of reasons to dodge in this game | ||
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JimmiC
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