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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 21 2016 06:00 GMT
#81
I like the new Taric. You can pretty much keep his passive up 100% of the time by spamming Q during a fight and as long your hitting people the CD on Q is nullified. IBG and rageblade on him are pretty good.

Don't judge me
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 06:23:02
April 21 2016 06:18 GMT
#82
On April 21 2016 05:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 05:04 RagequitBM wrote:
Decided to start up the solo grind after finishing my finals, and how do you play bot in this meta?

Back in S5 I remember if I was better than their duo I could pound them, and deny farm or even kill them.. But in this meta I take two steps passed my minion lane and there's their jungler, and a double TP. Is there really nothing you can do as ADC to impact the game? Feels like every game is over in 15 minute because one of your solo laners have 5 kills, or their solo laner has 5 kills.

I've only played 10 games, and I might just be bad because I took a 4 month break, but does anyone have any tips on how to play bot lane now? It can't just be passive farm and hope that your team breaks even or wins..


Pretty much, the more successful ADC in solo q atm are hyper carries. Kog, twitch, jhin all good examples. If passively farming in lane isnt really your style, utility ADCs are also good right now ( i see sivir as your pic)

Sivir, ashe, ezreal (I put him more in this category because his waveclear/poke/kiting are all basically annoying utility)

What champions have you been trying to play? Lucian is an okay choice for aggro adc because of his low cd dash to escape those TP situations but you better be damn good at him.

Been playing a lot of Lucian, some Sivir, and resorted to Ezreal a couple of games.

Lucian is super good during lane, but I suck late game with his short range. Sivir has been working pretty well because ult, and late game richochet. Ezreal is nice because its very hard to die, but I feel like it's a lot harder to get kills during the lane phase with him; also his damage is bonkers once you get your core


I might pick up Jhin, or Kog, I'm seeing those two having a lot of success. Might even try dusting off the Twitch.. It's not that I hate passive farm, I just think 2v2 fights are really fun
Thanks a lot for all of your answers! Very helpful
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 21 2016 12:23 GMT
#83
I saw on probuilds all kindreds switching to Fervor when a few weeks ago Sota was still common across the board. Any reason for that?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35131 Posts
April 21 2016 13:03 GMT
#84
On April 21 2016 21:23 AsnSensation wrote:
I saw on probuilds all kindreds switching to Fervor when a few weeks ago Sota was still common across the board. Any reason for that?

Runaans became a big thing on her and that + Fervor = a brazillion damage.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 13:33:02
April 21 2016 13:19 GMT
#85
On April 21 2016 15:18 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 05:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 21 2016 05:04 RagequitBM wrote:
Decided to start up the solo grind after finishing my finals, and how do you play bot in this meta?

Back in S5 I remember if I was better than their duo I could pound them, and deny farm or even kill them.. But in this meta I take two steps passed my minion lane and there's their jungler, and a double TP. Is there really nothing you can do as ADC to impact the game? Feels like every game is over in 15 minute because one of your solo laners have 5 kills, or their solo laner has 5 kills.

I've only played 10 games, and I might just be bad because I took a 4 month break, but does anyone have any tips on how to play bot lane now? It can't just be passive farm and hope that your team breaks even or wins..


Pretty much, the more successful ADC in solo q atm are hyper carries. Kog, twitch, jhin all good examples. If passively farming in lane isnt really your style, utility ADCs are also good right now ( i see sivir as your pic)

Sivir, ashe, ezreal (I put him more in this category because his waveclear/poke/kiting are all basically annoying utility)

What champions have you been trying to play? Lucian is an okay choice for aggro adc because of his low cd dash to escape those TP situations but you better be damn good at him.

Been playing a lot of Lucian, some Sivir, and resorted to Ezreal a couple of games.

Lucian is super good during lane, but I suck late game with his short range. Sivir has been working pretty well because ult, and late game richochet. Ezreal is nice because its very hard to die, but I feel like it's a lot harder to get kills during the lane phase with him; also his damage is bonkers once you get your core


I might pick up Jhin, or Kog, I'm seeing those two having a lot of success. Might even try dusting off the Twitch.. It's not that I hate passive farm, I just think 2v2 fights are really fun
Thanks a lot for all of your answers! Very helpful

Have you tried giving Kalista a shot? Cait might be another option. Both have to be played very interactive with the opponents, so while you might no be getting kills and outright fighting a lot it's probably much more to your liking than the boring farmfest.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 21 2016 13:29 GMT
#86
Ezreal is nice because its very hard to die, but I feel like it's a lot harder to get kills during the lane phase with him; also his damage is bonkers once you get your core


Wouldn't quite agree with that, if you play a good Ezreal you can harass the enemy player out of lane. Also snowballs nicely I would say, not super hard, but if you come back with an early Sheen, up to lv 6 or so the enemy ADC can get zoned pretty hard.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 14:56:32
April 21 2016 14:48 GMT
#87
Been playing a lot of jungle Taric.

I think its pretty legit. His first clear is hella mana-gated, but once you finish that he his real strong, actually. I've been running full Flat Mana Regen Blues. I think these are required. Not sure about the other runes, been using AS Quints and AD reds, but i want to do some benchmark testing. Might be able to get away with Runspeed quints and AS reds.

QEWEER, R>E>W>Q

I like Q as a skill better than W, but you want to keep the mana-cost at 60 instead of having it increase with levels as in the jungle you basically spam it to keep your passive up.

He farms fast, and safe. Between the passive (AS & onhit), the shield, and the heal, you are basically golden. In the jungle you just use Q to proc your passive all day. You just manage skills so you have near 100% uptime on your Passive, similar to Lee-Sin: W-auto-auto E-auto-auto Q-auto-auto etc. I think EWQing camps is most effective, but at the end of the day I think it doesn't make too much of a difference. You will kill the camp quickly and at full health.


Ganks are strong. You basically are guaranteed a kill if you land the stun. Easy to land the stun if your laner is paying any attention. You basically can dive any tower you want. Feels good.

From what I can tell, you can play Taric as a carry, or as a support style jungle. I've had success with both. Taric Likes Iceborn a lot, might be greedy to buy it though. Not sure. Farmed with items you kind of feel like Warwick or Shyvana in a back line when / if you get there, with Iceborn you stick hard, easy to land E after an auto, and you dont die because you basically get 400 HP per 2 seconds from Q, and you have R. Its kind of nice, if you are getting fed you are a huge threat, but you can also just play a control style game where you apply map pressure and dont get any gold for yourself. Feels viable either way. I'm sure rageblade would be sweet too. Maybe even devourer.... :O Havn't tried it though.

Obviously you can also just babysit your carries. You might be able to do both, to be honest. W your carry, then you keeping yourself alive and diving their carry. Probably depends on the fight. I only have like 10 games under my belt, but it feels good.

Could be just me, but I think he is a top tier jungle pick right now. Try it out. That being said, I have only played like 30 games this season, and am climbing hard, so it might be less Taric and more I'm a league or so lower than I should be. Not sure.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 21 2016 15:43 GMT
#88
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
April 21 2016 15:49 GMT
#89
On April 21 2016 21:23 AsnSensation wrote:
I saw on probuilds all kindreds switching to Fervor when a few weeks ago Sota was still common across the board. Any reason for that?


I looked her up one or two patches ago and Fervor was already popular on her. Just works well with the Devourer/Hurricane build
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 16:12:20
April 21 2016 16:12 GMT
#90
Does Taric win the award for most half assed remakes

this is like his fourth iteration>?
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Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
April 21 2016 16:14 GMT
#91
Skarner and Ryze are also pretty high on that list.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 16:16:38
April 21 2016 16:15 GMT
#92
well the one previous to this one didn't really change anything but his passive, and made all his skills scale really poorly with points but well with gold. Not sure if I'd call that a rework but Riot might have.

it would really tickle me if he ended up being a beast in a role other than support.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35131 Posts
April 21 2016 16:17 GMT
#93
Don't forget Kayle.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 21 2016 16:17 GMT
#94
On April 22 2016 01:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Does Taric win the award for most half assed remakes

this is like his fourth iteration>?


Wtf.

New Taric is awesome.

<_<

You guys are just not jungling him. Theres you problem.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 21 2016 16:52 GMT
#95
On April 22 2016 01:17 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Does Taric win the award for most half assed remakes

this is like his fourth iteration>?


Wtf.

New Taric is awesome.

<_<

You guys are just not jungling him. Theres you problem.


Seems to be a general trend with Rito reworks: if it doesn't work in lane anymore, jungle it.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
April 21 2016 16:58 GMT
#96
On April 21 2016 21:23 AsnSensation wrote:
I saw on probuilds all kindreds switching to Fervor when a few weeks ago Sota was still common across the board. Any reason for that?


Fervor in general is just superior to what sota gives u right now. Fervor jax, ww and yi jung is very common atm.
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parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 17:07:02
April 21 2016 17:00 GMT
#97
Just pulled a Spirit Guard Udyr on yesterday's 5 hextech pack (975 RP). Also came with Nightmare Tyrndamere (cool skin) and Lollypoppy. Last week's pack, I pulled Project Yi, and Omega Squad Teemo.

Pretty damn happy so far.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 21 2016 17:31 GMT
#98
On April 22 2016 01:52 DarkCore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:17 iCanada wrote:
On April 22 2016 01:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Does Taric win the award for most half assed remakes

this is like his fourth iteration>?


Wtf.

New Taric is awesome.

<_<

You guys are just not jungling him. Theres you problem.


Seems to be a general trend with Rito reworks: if it doesn't work in lane anymore, jungle it.

Here are the last 20 gameplay reworks. Which one are you thinking of when you say that the "general trend" of Rito reworks make them junglers?

Taric - jury's still out on that
Shen - mostly top
Poppy - mostly top
Skarner - jungler before and after
Mordekaiser - nowhere
Garen - top
Darius - top
Fiora - top
Miss Fortune - ADC
Gangplank - top
Ashe - ADC
Ryze - mid/top
Veigar - mid
Zilean - mid
Tristana - ADC
Sion - mostly top
Viktor - mid
Soraka - support
Cassiopeia - mid
Sona - support

What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 21 2016 17:55 GMT
#99
Who is supposed to win Irelia vs Darius?

I feel like Irelia should win, but i just watched an Irelia die 5 times to Darius.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 21 2016 18:06 GMT
#100
On April 22 2016 02:55 iCanada wrote:
Who is supposed to win Irelia vs Darius?

I feel like Irelia should win, but i just watched an Irelia die 5 times to Darius.

The higher the skill level the better irelia is at it
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