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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
April 21 2016 18:10 GMT
#101
At the same time and Darius matchup into a melee will end up super binary.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 18:37:53
April 21 2016 18:31 GMT
#102
On April 22 2016 01:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Does Taric win the award for most half assed remakes

this is like his fourth iteration>?


oh I beg to differ he brings the whole package

I don't know what you're talking about this is the first taric remake
everything else was just changing his numbers and how his ult works

On April 22 2016 02:55 iCanada wrote:
Who is supposed to win Irelia vs Darius?

I feel like Irelia should win, but i just watched an Irelia die 5 times to Darius.


pretty tough if it snowballs you get fucked but you can also snowball on him.
If you push early you're fucked. He can literally just kill you at level 5 because of how strong his passive at 5 stacks is. If you're close to tower you can trade by hopping on a creep especially if he uses q.

Once you have your serrated dirk and level 6 you can basically try to one shot him, or engage smartly and q out to a creep. The issue is you can't fuck up an all-in because he can hook you back in and also be wary of him kiting you with his Q to avoid damage, and deal q enhanced damage+insane heal

you basically need to kill him before he hits 5 stacks unless you get QSS. (which wont work when they change it)
aka Teutonica
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
April 21 2016 18:36 GMT
#103
He's had his passive remade, his ult remade, his E drastically changed and I think his W changed before. And they weren't just changing numbers, they changed scalings and stat scalings. I distinctly remember Riot calling them reworks as well.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 18:40:42
April 21 2016 18:40 GMT
#104
he was still always press R at some point, E W some random guy heal someone and auto when everythings on cd

changing that he scales more off armour instead of base stats doesn't change too much
his old passive was garbage LOL you gained mana based on your auto damgae
aka Teutonica
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
April 21 2016 19:01 GMT
#105
Right, I'm not saying they were revolutionary or anything. On the contrary, we were discussing how half-assed the reworks were. But this was not his first rework, that was the whole topic of discussion.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:17:20
April 21 2016 19:16 GMT
#106
On April 22 2016 03:40 Slayer91 wrote:
he was still always press R at some point, E W some random guy


This describes like 90% of the champions in the game. Maybe they can throw a Q in there too? ..
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
April 21 2016 19:19 GMT
#107
i mean stun and w for the armour debuff then have auras and a heal
its pretty unique to taric and hasnt changed really at all
aka Teutonica
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:23:32
April 21 2016 19:23 GMT
#108
On April 22 2016 04:19 Slayer91 wrote:
i mean stun and w for the armour debuff then have auras and a heal
its pretty unique to taric and hasnt changed really at all

Being able to use other people to increase stun range is a pretty big fucking deal. Champ is definitely very different. Don't see how is the remake half assed at all tbh.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:24:13
April 21 2016 19:23 GMT
#109
no i agree the remake isn't half assed pretty close to a new champ
the other ones weren't remakes is what im saying
aka Teutonica
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 21 2016 19:29 GMT
#110
regardless of whatever he is, we weren't given what they promised. He was/is supposed to be the quintessential beginner melee support and very simple to play. This new taric is without a doubt top 10 hardest kits in game to properly play. How they missed the mark so far is beyond me
I come in for the scraps
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:34:57
April 21 2016 19:34 GMT
#111
On April 22 2016 04:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
regardless of whatever he is, we weren't given what they promised. He was/is supposed to be the quintessential beginner melee support and very simple to play. This new taric is without a doubt top 10 hardest kits in game to properly play. How they missed the mark so far is beyond me

Top 3 hardest to realize his full potential tbh at worst

I never got the impression he was supposed to stay faceroll though.
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
April 21 2016 19:39 GMT
#112
That's actually a really good point, now there is no real "starter support" champion that I can think of. Maybe Alistar but that still takes some general knowledge of the game. New taric is definitely not noob friendly like the old one.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 21 2016 19:39 GMT
#113
Annie and soraka
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:45:36
April 21 2016 19:39 GMT
#114
On April 22 2016 04:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
He was/is supposed to be the quintessential beginner melee support and very simple to play.

More emphasis on "was", less on "is". The whole point of the rework was to make him less basic point/click and more healthy in the greater scope of League's road map. Riot made mention of that numerous times during Taric's development.
On April 22 2016 04:39 nafta wrote:
Annie and soraka
I'd add Nami into that list. She might not be as great in high Elo where the mechanical, playmaking supports shine, but her kit is pretty straightforward. Only hard part about her is actually landing her Q, but it's pretty simple to understand and use and the rest of her kit (poke/heal/buff/cc) is very easy to execute.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
April 21 2016 19:45 GMT
#115
But annie is a lot closer to the quintessential mid/mage pick, and soraka is way too squishy and actually requires a decent amount of awareness and skill. Again, old soraka would be a much better suit. No skillshots, a larger heal, free mana or free damage.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 21 2016 19:50 GMT
#116
On April 22 2016 04:39 nafta wrote:
Annie and soraka


I think they mean melee supports.

That said, I don't care; Love that new jungle Taric. My new main for sure.

Always dive, never not dive.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:53:04
April 21 2016 19:52 GMT
#117
On April 22 2016 04:39 iamcaustic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
He was/is supposed to be the quintessential beginner melee support and very simple to play.

More emphasis on "was", less on "is". The whole point of the rework was to make him less basic point/click and more healthy in the greater scope of League's road map. Riot made mention of that numerous times during Taric's development.
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:39 nafta wrote:
Annie and soraka
I'd add Nami into that list. She might not be as great in high Elo where the mechanical, playmaking supports shine, but her kit is pretty straightforward. Only hard part about her is actually landing her Q, but it's pretty simple to understand and use and the rest of her kit (poke/heal/buff/cc) is very easy to execute.

Nami is garbage if you don't land bubble. Soraka is pure faceroll pls. Annie isn't complete but is decent if you are a bonobo.

braum/alistar/trundle all have pretty low skill floors
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:57:20
April 21 2016 19:55 GMT
#118
On April 22 2016 04:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
regardless of whatever he is, we weren't given what they promised. He was/is supposed to be the quintessential beginner melee support and very simple to play. This new taric is without a doubt top 10 hardest kits in game to properly play. How they missed the mark so far is beyond me


since when do rito care about difficulty wat
if you want a beginner support pick janna or soraka
taric was garbage as a beginner support because he was basically just garbage LOL
aka Teutonica
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 21 2016 19:57 GMT
#119
On April 22 2016 04:52 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:39 iamcaustic wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
He was/is supposed to be the quintessential beginner melee support and very simple to play.

More emphasis on "was", less on "is". The whole point of the rework was to make him less basic point/click and more healthy in the greater scope of League's road map. Riot made mention of that numerous times during Taric's development.
On April 22 2016 04:39 nafta wrote:
Annie and soraka
I'd add Nami into that list. She might not be as great in high Elo where the mechanical, playmaking supports shine, but her kit is pretty straightforward. Only hard part about her is actually landing her Q, but it's pretty simple to understand and use and the rest of her kit (poke/heal/buff/cc) is very easy to execute.

Nami is garbage if you don't land bubble. Soraka is pure faceroll pls. Annie isn't complete but is decent if you are a bonobo.

braum/alistar/trundle all have pretty low skill floors


Some people are convinced you need to be able to WQ combo to play Ali properly.

I quite frankly disagree. I think a top tier Ali player can do it, but the champion itself is awesome without it. Lots of times its better to just not WQ combo. Same with Lee Sin and insec kicks; To be frank, i think people have always uderestimated how good it is to kick a diving bruiser off of your carry.

Quite frankly, all I play is bruisers, and since season 1, I can barely recall being kicked off an ADC by a Lee. That can win fights all on its own. Forget the extra damage and the knockup, it was hella good before they added either. LOL. People get so tunneled on insecing or WQ'ing. Dont need to do that shit.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:58:16
April 21 2016 19:57 GMT
#120
just because sometimes you don't want to WQ/lee insec doesn't mean you get like 2x more kills if you can pull it off

not doing wq on alistar is like just having a short range malph ult and never using it
aka Teutonica
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