EPT[Patch 6.8] Rumble Jungle General Discussion - Page 4
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
Back in S5 I remember if I was better than their duo I could pound them, and deny farm or even kill them.. But in this meta I take two steps passed my minion lane and there's their jungler, and a double TP. Is there really nothing you can do as ADC to impact the game? Feels like every game is over in 15 minute because one of your solo laners have 5 kills, or their solo laner has 5 kills. I've only played 10 games, and I might just be bad because I took a 4 month break, but does anyone have any tips on how to play bot lane now? It can't just be passive farm and hope that your team breaks even or wins.. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On April 21 2016 05:04 RagequitBM wrote: Decided to start up the solo grind after finishing my finals, and how do you play bot in this meta? Back in S5 I remember if I was better than their duo I could pound them, and deny farm or even kill them.. But in this meta I take two steps passed my minion lane and there's their jungler, and a double TP. Is there really nothing you can do as ADC to impact the game? Feels like every game is over in 15 minute because one of your solo laners have 5 kills, or their solo laner has 5 kills. I've only played 10 games, and I might just be bad because I took a 4 month break, but does anyone have any tips on how to play bot lane now? It can't just be passive farm and hope that your team breaks even or wins.. Pretty much, the more successful ADC in solo q atm are hyper carries. Kog, twitch, jhin all good examples. If passively farming in lane isnt really your style, utility ADCs are also good right now ( i see sivir as your pic) Sivir, ashe, ezreal (I put him more in this category because his waveclear/poke/kiting are all basically annoying utility) What champions have you been trying to play? Lucian is an okay choice for aggro adc because of his low cd dash to escape those TP situations but you better be damn good at him. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
You need to be suuuuper mindful of TP timers now. If theirs is up, or they got more you have to play extremely defensive there's not really a lot you can do about besides playing something slippery and trust in your support. Always pink away the teleport ward on your side of the lane and try to keep one on their side. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On April 21 2016 05:47 Prog wrote: I miss the old Taric already. The new one isn't bad, but it's not Taric anymore. I wish there was at least some armor scaling on the spells that protect my teammates so I'd have a reason to get armor. yeah but its not like the armour scaling was even good like old taric gave +30 armour at level 9 new taric you built like 200 armour get one shot by mages do no damage and have no range and slow attacks was pure garbage LOL | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On April 21 2016 05:04 RagequitBM wrote: Decided to start up the solo grind after finishing my finals, and how do you play bot in this meta? Back in S5 I remember if I was better than their duo I could pound them, and deny farm or even kill them.. But in this meta I take two steps passed my minion lane and there's their jungler, and a double TP. Is there really nothing you can do as ADC to impact the game? Feels like every game is over in 15 minute because one of your solo laners have 5 kills, or their solo laner has 5 kills. I've only played 10 games, and I might just be bad because I took a 4 month break, but does anyone have any tips on how to play bot lane now? It can't just be passive farm and hope that your team breaks even or wins.. Well, you can but it takes coordination with your support. You've got to prevent deep wards for the port plays and get your own deep wards to prevent ganks. This seems like bot lane 101 but it's hard to do well. You need a sweeper and pinks and green wards. Pinks plural. They're cheap, always leave base with a pink. It's been off and on this way since ADs stopped taking ignite since the AD meta is almost always a response to the top/mid meta. When the top/mid meta is assassins then mobile/safe/early ADs tend to be powerful. When top/mid is tank/Mage then late scalers tend to be powerful. Now it's generally stronger to push and rotate rather than force a play. It's hard to engage under tower against a hard peel support and a late scaling/utility carry unless you're diving with the jungler or top. Which means they have to be ahead/you're relying on them. Sometimes this relies on your support to roam while the AD farms, sometimes you can go together, but in general it's best to think of a tank focused meta as a team fight focused meta. If you're not the one ready for a team fight the other team is probably ready to make a team fight out of you. Additionally it's worth noting that dynamic queue has increased the general level of play because fewer people get off roles and because the increased number of groups has upped coordination. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On April 21 2016 06:00 Jek wrote: How to ADC in season 6: If your support isn't Alistar, Braum, Janna or Soraka you dodge. :^) You need to be suuuuper mindful of TP timers now. If theirs is up, or they got more you have to play extremely defensive there's not really a lot you can do about besides playing something slippery and trust in your support. Always pink away the teleport ward on your side of the lane and try to keep one on their side. I mean, you could just do better in the vision battle. Like you mentioned, it's good to be clearing out their wards and setting up your own -- which you really should be doing anyway to avoid standard jg ganks, let alone TP plays. I'm also encouraged by the removal of Distortion enchantment (but that's 6.9 I suppose). As an ADC main, what I'm thankful for is the following:
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On April 21 2016 07:51 JimmiC wrote: I'm not sure that Taric will see much play. The ult sounds op but in practice the 2.5 sec wind up time is super hard to predict. rest of his stuff is pretty strong regardless of his ult. stun range is a bit small but I am gonna say he will get played eventually even if it takes a small buff to push him into a contested pick. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
His E looks the strongest on paper, but Q has the lowest CD if he is proccing his passive and its AoE. E>Q>W? E=Q>W? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
W and E have a static 60 mana cost while his heal goes from 60 to 140. Sounds like a good way to destroy your mana pool. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On April 21 2016 10:18 JimmiC wrote: With a buff that's possible but most anyone will with a buff so I mean as of now. It is an interesting kit, so there's win. I do hope they find the right balance. I am just saying from past history new or reworked champs seem to always get a nudge if they are not being picked up | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
I only played 3-4 games with him yesterday BUT he seems okay. I thought he's gonna be way stronger, judging by trailers and stuff but his heal on Q seems pretty damn weak. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
will definitely see pro play without any more buffs and such. his W witih ult and stun has just too much utility to pass up. tower dives are so free. | ||
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