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Discuss upcoming 6.9 changes and other mid-season updates here: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/507856-mid-season-updates
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 00:11:41
April 20 2016 00:11 GMT
#41
On April 20 2016 09:02 Inflicted wrote:
Olaf buffs. Thought they learnt their lesson with Ekko


not sure how that is related other than both heros got buffed.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
April 20 2016 00:12 GMT
#42
On April 20 2016 09:11 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 09:02 Inflicted wrote:
Olaf buffs. Thought they learnt their lesson with Ekko


not sure how that is related other than both heros got buffed.


Random "small" buffs that will make them broken
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 00:19:42
April 20 2016 00:18 GMT
#43
that isn't what happened with Ekko at all on top of the fact that you are suggesting never buffing any heros ever.
Ekko was intentionally overbuffed because he sucks as an assassin and Riot wanted him to be played as one.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
April 20 2016 00:18 GMT
#44
On April 20 2016 09:12 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 09:11 Slusher wrote:
On April 20 2016 09:02 Inflicted wrote:
Olaf buffs. Thought they learnt their lesson with Ekko


not sure how that is related other than both heros got buffed.


Random "small" buffs that will make them broken

Olaf is one of those champions (now) that is always going to need small tweaks to numbers. His kit just isn't that stable at the moment because he loses his major defensive steroid to do damage and has no hard CC. I don't see him liking most of the meta items so probably not OP anyways.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 20 2016 00:44 GMT
#45
On April 20 2016 09:02 Inflicted wrote:
Olaf buffs. Thought they learnt their lesson with Ekko

Yet Riven isn't being touched because they want to see how she works out in the mage rework environment.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 20 2016 01:07 GMT
#46
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
April 20 2016 01:10 GMT
#47
On April 20 2016 08:45 Gahlo wrote:
Hahahahahaha fuck that.


He is probably losing his minion farming +AP i bet.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 20 2016 01:17 GMT
#48
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 20 2016 02:59 GMT
#49
Lol wtf.

Fire drake and Water drake seems OP as shit. Get those and hard snowball game. If it Air / Earth drake, cool, but meh. Well... Earth drake is nice in pro play I guess.

Air drake is good just... meh.

I guess it depends on numbers though.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 03:03:58
April 20 2016 03:03 GMT
#50
On April 20 2016 07:53 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 05:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On April 20 2016 05:26 Goumindong wrote:
On April 20 2016 05:07 GrandInquisitor wrote:

Most of the midseason update is probably buffs in terms of "cool stuff you can do", but I assume it will be accompanied by across-the-board numbers nerfs (e.g., I'm very confident that the Brand passive burn % is going to be lowered).


Some might be but looking at the video's it doesn't look like it (given that they generally use zero offensive item builds to show things). The final pop on the third hit looks huge and also looks to do about 10 to 15% max health.

And then there are the items. They went ahead with the "Dash on 30 second cooldown" item. Zhonya and Abyssal now grant CDR because that seems like a good idea

Are we ready for another episode of "LL knows balance"? These items are going to break the game just like Duskblade, did, right?

It's a 30-second cooldown Vayne tumble-length dash. How many AP champs are really going to be buying this, given that it's got a Kindlegem in the buildpath and only 60 AP?


When we first saw duskblade we didn't see the cooldown on its passive and frankly its still a competent item in the right situation.

We are right about these things far more often than riot is, to be honest.

Here's a list of quotes from after Duskblade was fully revealed (indeed, some after the item went live), with names redacted. You're telling me that the game would be better if these guys were in charge of balance?

it doesn't *really* matter that this item is "ad" themed. you can build it on ap champs as well, because it's still 90 + 25% missing hp. less efficient since you the stats don't add to your combo buuuuuuut if you're a champ that autos with some frequency or has an aa reset maybe?
Duskblade on EZ will be hilarious. now he just pokes harder.
regardless of how good or bad this item is (hint its really good)

This will be one of those troll patches like league of cleavers or 420 weedwick that you look back at later and shake your head. its going to be a shitty 2 weeks of league
with everything I have read about this item it's gonna be like a hotfix type of issue. Got to say I'm pretty interested I'm probably gonna skip to much work for league tomorrow =-(
You guys looking forward to lux Viktor 45 mins 0 action crapfests every pro game for the next month with a sum total of 4 ADCs? I know I am. How could I not be after 4 weeks of it already?
You'd think Rito learns from their mistakes, and release brand new items a bit underpowered, rather than overpowered. At least it's been a while that they released a new champion in such a broken state as Diana was.
So is the overall consensus that Duskblade is OPieOP and if you aren't playing an AD melee assassin, you're doing it wrong?
an item that encourages poke even more in a defensive meta, and in its intended use makes champs even more binary? k. hahah.
i can't believe they went live with duskblade

What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 03:39:12
April 20 2016 03:38 GMT
#51
On April 20 2016 10:10 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:45 Gahlo wrote:
Hahahahahaha fuck that.


He is probably losing his minion farming +AP i bet.

Nope.

From S@20:
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IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
April 20 2016 03:44 GMT
#52
is velkoz a hard counter to azir?
Moar banelings less qq
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 20 2016 03:46 GMT
#53
I dunno, but I remember seeing Velkoz dumping on Azir on Bjerg's stream last night.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 20 2016 04:27 GMT
#54
On April 20 2016 12:44 IamPryda wrote:
is velkoz a hard counter to azir?

It is considered a counterpick at the pro level. As mentioned bjerg used it, it's also been used a handful of times in lck.
Carrilord has arrived.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 05:04:02
April 20 2016 04:59 GMT
#55
[image loading]

This is good indeed. So everytime you hit E+W+Q combo on an enemy you gain 3 AP?

Veigar support, HERE I COME again ~~

[image loading]

This also looks awesome for AP/mana hungry supports.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
April 20 2016 05:04 GMT
#56
On April 20 2016 12:46 Gahlo wrote:
I dunno, but I remember seeing Velkoz dumping on Azir on Bjerg's stream last night.

It was Jensen's Velkoz.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=forandringfryder
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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
April 20 2016 05:10 GMT
#57
On April 20 2016 12:03 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 07:53 Goumindong wrote:
On April 20 2016 05:58 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On April 20 2016 05:26 Goumindong wrote:
On April 20 2016 05:07 GrandInquisitor wrote:

Most of the midseason update is probably buffs in terms of "cool stuff you can do", but I assume it will be accompanied by across-the-board numbers nerfs (e.g., I'm very confident that the Brand passive burn % is going to be lowered).


Some might be but looking at the video's it doesn't look like it (given that they generally use zero offensive item builds to show things). The final pop on the third hit looks huge and also looks to do about 10 to 15% max health.

And then there are the items. They went ahead with the "Dash on 30 second cooldown" item. Zhonya and Abyssal now grant CDR because that seems like a good idea

Are we ready for another episode of "LL knows balance"? These items are going to break the game just like Duskblade, did, right?

It's a 30-second cooldown Vayne tumble-length dash. How many AP champs are really going to be buying this, given that it's got a Kindlegem in the buildpath and only 60 AP?


When we first saw duskblade we didn't see the cooldown on its passive and frankly its still a competent item in the right situation.

We are right about these things far more often than riot is, to be honest.

Here's a list of quotes from after Duskblade was fully revealed (indeed, some after the item went live), with names redacted. You're telling me that the game would be better if these guys were in charge of balance?

Show nested quote +
it doesn't *really* matter that this item is "ad" themed. you can build it on ap champs as well, because it's still 90 + 25% missing hp. less efficient since you the stats don't add to your combo buuuuuuut if you're a champ that autos with some frequency or has an aa reset maybe?
Show nested quote +
Duskblade on EZ will be hilarious. now he just pokes harder.
Show nested quote +
regardless of how good or bad this item is (hint its really good)

This will be one of those troll patches like league of cleavers or 420 weedwick that you look back at later and shake your head. its going to be a shitty 2 weeks of league
Show nested quote +
with everything I have read about this item it's gonna be like a hotfix type of issue. Got to say I'm pretty interested I'm probably gonna skip to much work for league tomorrow =-(
Show nested quote +
You guys looking forward to lux Viktor 45 mins 0 action crapfests every pro game for the next month with a sum total of 4 ADCs? I know I am. How could I not be after 4 weeks of it already?
Show nested quote +
You'd think Rito learns from their mistakes, and release brand new items a bit underpowered, rather than overpowered. At least it's been a while that they released a new champion in such a broken state as Diana was.
Show nested quote +
So is the overall consensus that Duskblade is OPieOP and if you aren't playing an AD melee assassin, you're doing it wrong?
Show nested quote +
an item that encourages poke even more in a defensive meta, and in its intended use makes champs even more binary? k. hahah.
Show nested quote +
i can't believe they went live with duskblade



u don't want me in charge of balance? I'd build a giant wall to keep the tank meta out and make the devourer jungers pay for it
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 20 2016 05:24 GMT
#58
Ekko nerfs are pretty light. Will prob see more offtank AP ekko builds RoA->IBG->abyssal/zhonya types
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
April 20 2016 05:39 GMT
#59
On April 20 2016 14:04 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 12:46 Gahlo wrote:
I dunno, but I remember seeing Velkoz dumping on Azir on Bjerg's stream last night.

It was Jensen's Velkoz.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=forandringfryder


....Velkoz has been a known counterpick for several weeks now...
Freeeeeeedom
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 20 2016 06:29 GMT
#60
On April 20 2016 14:24 MooMooMugi wrote:
Ekko nerfs are pretty light. Will prob see more offtank AP ekko builds RoA->IBG->abyssal/zhonya types

Yea I think Ekko might still be ridiculously strong since he's gotten a ton of incremental buffs to push AP Ekko over Tank Ekko.

But all of the incremental nerfs are pretty big when put together, for example Nautilus is down ~15-20% of his overall dps with the Grasp, IBG, and his earlier E nerf. In terms of flat burst it's also ~350 dmg before resists which means now as an ADC instead of getting destroyed while CC-locked you live with a little more and can start lifestealing and kiting out of the fight.

I think this is a lot better than last season when they would just gut any champion that was dominant, but all of the attempts to nudge things into balance might go out the window in the new patch (or we might just see a million bruiser APs in top and mid again).
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