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kongoline
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
To be honest I feel like the current patch schedule borders on being discouraging towards learning new champions. This is exasterbated by the fact that Riot has a tendency to be really inconsistent with what they feel out and what the get the fuck out of the game as fast as possible. An example for me personally is Azir, I actively chose not to learn this hero because I thought it was to complex and would get nerfed really quickly, but then he ended up being op for like 9 months. Meanwhile stuff like Graves or Sejuani was "op" for like 1 patch and they dished out nerfs. I'm not even demanding consistency because I think at certain points that isn't all that possible, but I feel like with Bi weekly patching I definitely consider if I want to learn a new "op" before I invest any time into it, and I don't think that is positive. idk just looking for some opinions. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 04 2016 13:06 Slusher wrote: Wondering what people's take on patch cycles is. We touched on it for a couple of posts earlier in this thread, but today I saw Scarra tweeting that he was surprised by the lack of patches in recent weeks. Like I get the game has a glaring problem with masteries at the moment but because it's universal it doesn't really bother me much and I kinda like the game on this patch idk I just really don't like the bi-weekly patching and I'm surprised to see multiple people bring it up as a sore point that it took a break. To be honest I feel like the current patch schedule borders on being discouraging towards learning new champions. This is exasterbated by the fact that Riot has a tendency to be really inconsistent with what they feel out and what the get the fuck out of the game as fast as possible. An example for me personally is Azir, I actively chose not to learn this hero because I thought it was to complex and would get nerfed really quickly, but then he ended up being op for like 9 months. Meanwhile stuff like Graves or Sejuani was "op" for like 1 patch and they dished out nerfs. I'm not even demanding consistency because I think at certain points that isn't all that possible, but I feel like with Bi weekly patching I definitely consider if I want to learn a new "op" before I invest any time into it, and I don't think that is positive. idk just looking for some opinions. Yes. Its not clear to the average person what things that are clearly OP are going to be nerfed. I've noticed that if something is OP in pro play + bronze-gold it will be fairly quickly removed, but aside from that, no idea. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 04 2016 13:06 Slusher wrote: Wondering what people's take on patch cycles is. We touched on it for a couple of posts earlier in this thread, but today I saw Scarra tweeting that he was surprised by the lack of patches in recent weeks. Like I get the game has a glaring problem with masteries at the moment but because it's universal it doesn't really bother me much and I kinda like the game on this patch idk I just really don't like the bi-weekly patching and I'm surprised to see multiple people bring it up as a sore point that it took a break. To be honest I feel like the current patch schedule borders on being discouraging towards learning new champions. This is exasterbated by the fact that Riot has a tendency to be really inconsistent with what they feel out and what the get the fuck out of the game as fast as possible. An example for me personally is Azir, I actively chose not to learn this hero because I thought it was to complex and would get nerfed really quickly, but then he ended up being op for like 9 months. Meanwhile stuff like Graves or Sejuani was "op" for like 1 patch and they dished out nerfs. I'm not even demanding consistency because I think at certain points that isn't all that possible, but I feel like with Bi weekly patching I definitely consider if I want to learn a new "op" before I invest any time into it, and I don't think that is positive. idk just looking for some opinions. If Scarra is noting a lack of patches over the Christmas/New Years break, that shows he was never paying attention in the offseason since Riot has NEVER put out patches during that time period. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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RicerDivision
United States3 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On January 04 2016 15:59 RicerDivision wrote: Who beats Mundo right now? I don't know, but Mundo vs Nasus match up is epic right now - 30 minutes farm fest translating into what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object hahaha | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 04 2016 15:59 RicerDivision wrote: Who beats Mundo right now? Trundle rekts mundo pretty hard. Just steals all his defensive stats in team fights and makes him very burstable. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 04 2016 13:06 Slusher wrote: Wondering what people's take on patch cycles is. We touched on it for a couple of posts earlier in this thread, but today I saw Scarra tweeting that he was surprised by the lack of patches in recent weeks. Like I get the game has a glaring problem with masteries at the moment but because it's universal it doesn't really bother me much and I kinda like the game on this patch idk I just really don't like the bi-weekly patching and I'm surprised to see multiple people bring it up as a sore point that it took a break. To be honest I feel like the current patch schedule borders on being discouraging towards learning new champions. This is exasterbated by the fact that Riot has a tendency to be really inconsistent with what they feel out and what the get the fuck out of the game as fast as possible. An example for me personally is Azir, I actively chose not to learn this hero because I thought it was to complex and would get nerfed really quickly, but then he ended up being op for like 9 months. Meanwhile stuff like Graves or Sejuani was "op" for like 1 patch and they dished out nerfs. I'm not even demanding consistency because I think at certain points that isn't all that possible, but I feel like with Bi weekly patching I definitely consider if I want to learn a new "op" before I invest any time into it, and I don't think that is positive. idk just looking for some opinions. I like the fortnightlyish patching, but I don't think Riot uses it as effectively as they could. I would really like to see more small touches to unpopular / struggling champs or underused masteries or items. If something is broken as a result, it's only so for a couple of weeks. I personally am not interested in learning the "OPs" (I can see why people are though), so if the "best" champs are in a state of flux, it doesn't bother me. In my opinion, Riot should be doing everything they can to promote diversity at the competitive level. The one thing that turns me off a pro game is seeing the same champs/strategy over and over. Frequent patching can be used as part of a greater whole (more bans pls). Give me a season of jungle diversity please! I kinda hate the game on this patch, so I'm looking forward to when they get back. On January 04 2016 15:59 RicerDivision wrote: Who beats Mundo right now? I had a Ryze earlier today slaughter Mundo in lane, but the Mundo did take Stormraiders so I don't know how demonstrative it really is.The whole point of Mundo is he doesn't really lose or win lane, he just gets by til late where he can go as he pleases. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On January 03 2016 07:59 Alaric wrote: That's the thing though, I dunno what would suit my laning ways better. I could stay on Ashe but something without mobility is suicidal with my level of stutter-stepping and mechanics in general, and I dislike Lucian on principle (since because he's "the guy who casts spells" he's the reason Graves was left in the dust and changed so many times, and in the end reworked, but he doesn't have the same feel at all when you play). What I liked about Graves was the burst, and the way you can turn on people if you've got enough farm, so as long as I didn't farm like shit and my support made some space for me, I could play around my cooldowns, which is something I'm more used to do. And post-6 if you're already ahead you can, if not kill people, at least be unopposed because of the risk you just 100-0 someone. What I meant about the "feel" is that Q and R had a very "visceral" feel when you cast them, with satisfying sounds and the burst of damage and all (bit like Mundo cleavers or Pantheon's Q), Lucian's animations don't do that at all to me (on top of disliking him anyway), but I'm not sure there's any marksman who foots that bill anymore. Maybe Corki? But I'm really bad at him, from whenever I tried to play him. Maybe I'll move to Caitlyn. She does better damage now so even if I don't win the laning phase I won't be as much of a dead weight. Sounds like you need a little bit of Drrrrrrrrraven in your life. | ||
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RicerDivision
United States3 Posts
On January 04 2016 17:21 M2 wrote: I don't know, but Mundo vs Nasus match up is epic right now - 30 minutes farm fest translating into what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object hahaha good one, still I think Nasus will do more in Team fights! | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Infact it just happened last night, slowly whittled him down with undying grasp procs and E harass and then E-Q ignite flash burst him on his tower for FB once lane pushed. once you get frozen fist he is again an easy 300 gold if he misplays after that yea you wont be able to kill him and should probably go teamfight, one of the few champs I dont bother trying to brute force push on since he can freeze waves easily and just sit back and cleaver Trundle is alright vs mundo, you'll have a hard time against an actual mundo player though since you'll just get kited by cleavers | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Trundle probably the better choice overall unless you're confident that you can destroy him w/ Nasus in lane (I think I agree with the above). EDIT: Also me being dumb, but I never realized how substantial the heal on Trundle's ult was at lvl 2/3 with Visage and W active. Shit's insane. Does the damage apply pre or post the resistance steal? I'm assuming after but I'm not sure. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
The 8% more healing mastery is disgusting on trundle too. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
snowflower is amazing | ||
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