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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 27 2015 10:50 Goumindong wrote: Smite gromp not blue. The dmg from gromp aura is huge and he does a lot of damage. I'm not gonna smite gromp nor blue if I start red side.  I dunno what deals the most damage between gromp and blue though (and I'd have died all the same to gromp since no kiting). | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On August 27 2015 16:47 Alaric wrote: I'm not gonna smite gromp nor blue if I start red side. I dunno what deals the most damage between gromp and blue though (and I'd have died all the same to gromp since no kiting). Oh I thought you died doing your first buff. But yea krugs->red->blue ? Why not gromp then blue (or are you ganking immediately after blue? Why not gank after red if you're doing that? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I went Krugs because we were the blue team, so I started the jungle on the red side with the duo lane. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On August 27 2015 11:37 cLutZ wrote: You physically cannot insec, because a proper insec results in you W in less than 100 ms after your Q gets you into range of the target and you can't W until the server registers your ward. So I actually tried to and couldn't do it, guess ping won this round. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On August 27 2015 17:41 Goumindong wrote: Oh I thought you died doing your first buff. But yea krugs->red->blue ? Why not gromp then blue (or are you ganking immediately after blue? Why not gank after red if you're doing that? Doesn't smiting gromp vs blue depend largely on what kind of leash you get on gromp? | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On August 27 2015 22:45 Seuss wrote: Doesn't smiting gromp vs blue depend largely on what kind of leash you get on gromp? No, you just always smite gromp. The damage gain from smiting gromp means you finish your buffs faster which makes you healthier. Someone did the math on this about 6 threads ago. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
no smite gromp/blue then go down and smite the dragon scuttler, then return back to wolves like normal and finish the jungle. Pretty good I like it since its flexible. You can also gank mid after scuttler if possible. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 28 2015 01:42 VayneAuthority wrote: an alternate route ive been testing if your playing a good scuttler killing champion from that path no smite gromp/blue then go down and smite the dragon scuttler, then return back to wolves like normal and finish the jungle. Pretty good I like it since its flexible. You can also gank mid after scuttler if possible. a lot of people actually do this in soloq.2 camps(sometimes 3)>scutler>w/e right? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 28 2015 01:11 Sufficiency wrote: I think Smiting Gromp gives you 13 damage over 3 seconds. It's not overwhelmingly powerful, but still better than Smiting Blue which gives you very little The only benefit to smiting blue is getting mana. But you're getting blue so you're going to get mana anyway. The only practical excuse for smiting blue without being pressured is if you're effectively oom and have spells off cd while taking it so you can clear it faster. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 28 2015 02:18 Alaric wrote: 2 camps+scuttler gives level 3? I know that 3 camps+scuttler doesn't give 4 (4 camps+scuttler does though). I believe so, but can't check right now. | ||
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
scuttler is the last neutral that has no timers so having control of them is very important for devourer junglers | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On August 28 2015 03:51 Requizen wrote: How is Kennen currently? His winrate seems pretty high, but he's always seemed kinda hit or miss in metas. The AP itemization changes few patches back worked really in his favor, but no pro play and no direct changes to him mean his popularity is unchanged, while Kennen specialists can use his current strength very well. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 28 2015 06:54 AlterKot wrote: The AP itemization changes few patches back worked really in his favor, but no pro play and no direct changes to him mean his popularity is unchanged, while Kennen specialists can use his current strength very well. The champion.gg shows his items basically haven't changed (Zhonya's/Rylai/Hat as big cores), did those items go through some updates lately? Forgive me for being behind -.- | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Liandry's is also a legit choice on him now as well, since it's 80AP instead of 50. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
Also Luden's and Liandry's are super good on him, better than than Hat imo but I guess it doesn't matter that much. | ||
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