Ban phase in general is so weird lately, like other than Runeglaive Ezreal nothing really jumps out at me as must pick/ban. I mean, there's always banning the solo Q snowball champs depending upon your ELO, but to me nothing is really must pick/ban compared to when Sejuani was first pick/ban, or any of the warrior junglers, or when assassins ruled the mid lane.
I guess if I had to make a ban list of things I don't want to deal with in solo queue right now, it'd be (in order of importance):
But with the AP itemization changes going live, there might be some AP mages in mid that jump up in popularity and get on that list (Kayle, Diana, Xerath, and Ziggs are the ones that jump out at me).
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote: Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?
Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete
Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).
Might as well go Devourer now.
I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote: I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).
Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.
So what you're saying is you want to play Dota 2?
In all seriousness, I did have a game on 5.12 where my team went 2-1-2 in lane phase (people raging about picking supports, ended up being Rek'sai top w/ Sona support, bot was generic ADC and Thresh, mid was Malzahar I think) and we made them surrender at 20 because I got so many kills against the solo laner top and their jungler just didn't farm our jungle for some dumb reason.
On July 09 2015 05:08 Gahlo wrote: Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.
there are very few people who actually play a competent fiddle similar to shaco
there might not be must bans other than ryze/ez/rengar(last one if you are diamond in euw is a must) but there are a lot of champs that you should try to get banned like irelia/hecarim/azir/kalista/riven/eve/kata/vlad and not gonna comment on junglers since havent seen the new devourer in action yet but looks like fucking terror
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote: I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).
Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.
So what you're saying is you want to play Dota 2?
In all seriousness, I did have a game on 5.12 where my team went 2-1-2 in lane phase (people raging about picking supports, ended up being Rek'sai top w/ Sona support, bot was generic ADC and Thresh, mid was Malzahar I think) and we made them surrender at 20 because I got so many kills against the solo laner top and their jungler just didn't farm our jungle for some dumb reason.
Actually, farming the enemy jungle isn't much advantage these days. In Season 1 it was huge because buff camps gave so much extra experience and gold that getting all four of them was a huge advantage. These days buff camps yield the same experience as other camps and only slightly more gold, so it's not really worth it unless you run the special Smite for it.
But then if your top laner is feeding it's not really safe to run into the enemy jungle to farm anyway.
On July 09 2015 05:08 Gahlo wrote: Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.
there are very few people who actually play a competent fiddle similar to shaco
there might not be must bans other than ryze/ez/rengar(last one if you are diamond in euw is a must) but there are a lot of champs that you should try to get banned like irelia/hecarim/azir/kalista/riven/eve/kata/vlad and not gonna comment on junglers since havent seen the new devourer in action yet but looks like fucking terror
I've found that the amount of people that can play a competent fiddle is inversely proportional to the amount of people that can play competently against him.
On July 09 2015 05:08 Gahlo wrote: Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.
I wonder how many fiddlesticks are gonna play non stop until the patch since disabling improved stealth totem is probably the biggest buff he will ever see.
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote: Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?
Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete
Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).
Might as well go Devourer now.
I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).
Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.
try smite, it has pretty steep learning curve but once u gain experience its very fun
And now I'm playing Vi, ult Vayne, and Condemn sends me into the wall. She still gets cc'd, mind you. But I end up in the wall instead of near her.
CC immunity guys. I'm the one seeing unexisting bugs guys. Ha ha funny. Vi is fine.
Also fun fact: if you click your ult on someone while out of range, and they become untargetable somehow while you walk into range, your ult will automatically retarget to the closest champion. Vayne tumbles with ult on while you walk? Too bad, you can't click her again when she reappears, you're just going to ult the next closest champion.
Who in their right mind would have coded a retargeting of abilities that you can't even control yourself? That's not even the only spell who does that, and it just causes suicide half the time it happens.
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote: Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?
Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete
Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).
Might as well go Devourer now.
I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).
Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.
maybe you are slowly losing your mind this patch didnt have any buffs for champs that are actually played
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote: Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?
Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete
Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).
Might as well go Devourer now.
I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).
Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.
maybe you are slowly losing your mind this patch didnt have any buffs for champs that are actually played
But my point was exact opposite of "current champions are getting stronger", it was that there might be a big meta shift with warriors nerf, devourer buff and this whole weird ap itemization reshuffle.
But then it's most definitely a gut feeling more than an in-depth analysis.