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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#81
Ban phase in general is so weird lately, like other than Runeglaive Ezreal nothing really jumps out at me as must pick/ban. I mean, there's always banning the solo Q snowball champs depending upon your ELO, but to me nothing is really must pick/ban compared to when Sejuani was first pick/ban, or any of the warrior junglers, or when assassins ruled the mid lane.

I guess if I had to make a ban list of things I don't want to deal with in solo queue right now, it'd be (in order of importance):

Ezreal, Gragas, Sivir, Azir, Kalista, Nautilus, Rek'Sai, Rumble, Maokai

But with the AP itemization changes going live, there might be some AP mages in mid that jump up in popularity and get on that list (Kayle, Diana, Xerath, and Ziggs are the ones that jump out at me).
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 08 2015 20:08 GMT
#82
Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 20:11:30
July 08 2015 20:09 GMT
#83
On July 09 2015 05:00 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 04:59 AlterKot wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).

Might as well go Devourer now.

I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).

Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 08 2015 20:11 GMT
#84
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete


No CDR? Holy shit.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 08 2015 20:16 GMT
#85
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote:
I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).

Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.


So what you're saying is you want to play Dota 2?

In all seriousness, I did have a game on 5.12 where my team went 2-1-2 in lane phase (people raging about picking supports, ended up being Rek'sai top w/ Sona support, bot was generic ADC and Thresh, mid was Malzahar I think) and we made them surrender at 20 because I got so many kills against the solo laner top and their jungler just didn't farm our jungle for some dumb reason.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 20:22:15
July 08 2015 20:20 GMT
#86
On July 09 2015 05:08 Gahlo wrote:
Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.

there are very few people who actually play a competent fiddle similar to shaco

there might not be must bans other than ryze/ez/rengar(last one if you are diamond in euw is a must) but there are a lot of champs that you should try to get banned like irelia/hecarim/azir/kalista/riven/eve/kata/vlad and not gonna comment on junglers since havent seen the new devourer in action yet but looks like fucking terror
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 08 2015 20:22 GMT
#87
Oh right, I haven't seen new devourer yet, we might have to start banning Yi and Udyr now because it's literally Feral Flare 2.0 I guess.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 08 2015 20:25 GMT
#88
master yi was already strong in solo q with the shitty devourer, I would imagine he is a worthy ban now
I come in for the scraps
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 08 2015 20:26 GMT
#89
On July 09 2015 05:16 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote:
I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).

Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.


So what you're saying is you want to play Dota 2?

In all seriousness, I did have a game on 5.12 where my team went 2-1-2 in lane phase (people raging about picking supports, ended up being Rek'sai top w/ Sona support, bot was generic ADC and Thresh, mid was Malzahar I think) and we made them surrender at 20 because I got so many kills against the solo laner top and their jungler just didn't farm our jungle for some dumb reason.


Actually, farming the enemy jungle isn't much advantage these days. In Season 1 it was huge because buff camps gave so much extra experience and gold that getting all four of them was a huge advantage. These days buff camps yield the same experience as other camps and only slightly more gold, so it's not really worth it unless you run the special Smite for it.

But then if your top laner is feeding it's not really safe to run into the enemy jungle to farm anyway.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 08 2015 20:33 GMT
#90
On July 09 2015 05:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete


No CDR? Holy shit.

There's CDR, you just don't get it until the combine. Which double sucks.

On July 09 2015 05:20 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:08 Gahlo wrote:
Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.

there are very few people who actually play a competent fiddle similar to shaco

there might not be must bans other than ryze/ez/rengar(last one if you are diamond in euw is a must) but there are a lot of champs that you should try to get banned like irelia/hecarim/azir/kalista/riven/eve/kata/vlad and not gonna comment on junglers since havent seen the new devourer in action yet but looks like fucking terror

I've found that the amount of people that can play a competent fiddle is inversely proportional to the amount of people that can play competently against him.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 20:51:22
July 08 2015 20:49 GMT
#91
Maokai's W. I slide through Riven but don't cc her, and I end up unable to act for about a second after reappearing.
It happens three times in a row.

Riot please, do something about the servers...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
July 08 2015 21:03 GMT
#92
On July 09 2015 05:08 Gahlo wrote:
Fiddle-fucking-sticks is 100% ban, imo. Nobody wards enough and he just pops out and melts your team. I'd rather play against an Ezreal.


I wonder how many fiddlesticks are gonna play non stop until the patch since disabling improved stealth totem is probably the biggest buff he will ever see.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 08 2015 21:30 GMT
#93
Why is improved stealth totem disabled right now?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#94
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:00 Gahlo wrote:
On July 09 2015 04:59 AlterKot wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).

Might as well go Devourer now.

I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).

Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.

try smite, it has pretty steep learning curve but once u gain experience its very fun
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 21:45:41
July 08 2015 21:36 GMT
#95
And now I'm playing Vi, ult Vayne, and Condemn sends me into the wall.
She still gets cc'd, mind you. But I end up in the wall instead of near her.

CC immunity guys. I'm the one seeing unexisting bugs guys. Ha ha funny. Vi is fine.

Also fun fact: if you click your ult on someone while out of range, and they become untargetable somehow while you walk into range, your ult will automatically retarget to the closest champion.
Vayne tumbles with ult on while you walk? Too bad, you can't click her again when she reappears, you're just going to ult the next closest champion.

Who in their right mind would have coded a retargeting of abilities that you can't even control yourself? That's not even the only spell who does that, and it just causes suicide half the time it happens.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 21:40:54
July 08 2015 21:40 GMT
#96
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:00 Gahlo wrote:
On July 09 2015 04:59 AlterKot wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).

Might as well go Devourer now.

I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).

Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.


maybe you are slowly losing your mind this patch didnt have any buffs for champs that are actually played
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 08 2015 21:43 GMT
#97


Tahm spotlight out. Voiceover kinda disappointing :/
Carrilord has arrived.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 08 2015 21:45 GMT
#98
On July 09 2015 06:30 Kinie wrote:
Why is improved stealth totem disabled right now?

refunding it dropped the game
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 08 2015 21:45 GMT
#99
On July 09 2015 06:40 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 05:09 AlterKot wrote:
On July 09 2015 05:00 Gahlo wrote:
On July 09 2015 04:59 AlterKot wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).

Might as well go Devourer now.

I really liked the jungle since the cinderhulk nerf, but right now League is going in a really weird direction - I feel like now's the time to experiment with the meta (now more than ever I feel like doing things such as double bruiser botlane, or perhaps two duolanes with roaming/jungling smite supports).

Vlad/Ryze/Ez are my 100% bans.


maybe you are slowly losing your mind this patch didnt have any buffs for champs that are actually played


Indirect Vlad buffs if that counts.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 08 2015 21:49 GMT
#100
But my point was exact opposite of "current champions are getting stronger", it was that there might be a big meta shift with warriors nerf, devourer buff and this whole weird ap itemization reshuffle.

But then it's most definitely a gut feeling more than an in-depth analysis.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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