[Patch 5.13] Tahm Kench General Discussion - Page 7
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
they arent giving a 365g item 15gp10, that would give you 900 gold at 10minutes completely passively. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Frost Queen's Claim +15 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds Frostfang +15 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds Spells and basic attacks against champions or buildings deal 10 (down from 15) additional damage and grant 12 Gold (up from 10) Spellthief's Edge +10 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds lmao. | ||
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:15 739 wrote: Azir getting nerfed, damn. E no longer knockups or grants a shield. Frost Queen's Claim +15 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds Frostfang +15 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds Spells and basic attacks against champions or buildings deal 10 (down from 15) additional damage and grant 12 Gold (up from 10) Spellthief's Edge +10 Gold (up from 2) per 10 seconds lmao. That cant be right on FQC. Its already the best support item for gold. Also, jatt is sexy. | ||
Gahlo
United States35146 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:23 cLutZ wrote: That cant be right on FQC. Its already the best support item for gold. Also, jatt is sexy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAIfmW4sfgY&index=8&list=WL It's the best if you can use it perfectly. | ||
suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
untargettable, unkillable, uncounterable units that interact with the enemy team will never, ever be balanced. nor will they ever not be bugged. j4's cataclysm is still bugged. i've watched so many pro games with azir in it where people are getting stuck in his wall in a teamfight and not being able to get out despite there being space for the champion to just walk out. i suspect that azir's gonna end up as a champ that has one such SUPER GOOD thing in his kit (like ori ult) that nearly everything else about the kit at some point will have to be lowered at to counterbalance it. anyway those are my hto opinions, my other mid champ is diana so i don't have to worry about shit just yet though i suspect people are realizing she's + Show Spoiler + good | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:37 suicideyear wrote: azir's getting all his shit nerfed because riot doesn't want to touch his ult. untargettable, unkillable, uncounterable units that interact with the enemy team will never, ever be balanced. nor will they ever not be bugged. j4's cataclysm is still bugged. i've watched so many pro games with azir in it where people are getting stuck in his wall in a teamfight and not being able to get out despite there being space for the champion to just walk out. That's exactly the problem with Azir at the moment. | ||
Gahlo
United States35146 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:39 Gahlo wrote: The only thing taking a sizeable nerf is his E. W will replace all the AS of 40% CDR at rank 5. Iirc, Azirs were only getting that high if they went cdr/lvl glyphs. Thought most people went scaling cdr blues these days on poke heros | ||
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:39 Sufficiency wrote: Why is Riot making all of these dramatic changes when there are 3 weeks of regular season left? Because there are too many power picks that make a significant portion of the T2 champions irrelevant right now. | ||
sob3k
United States7572 Posts
I mean, here is a champion with absurd waveclear, ranged, who is gonna be stacking a lot of AP, and is givenassloads of free attack speed. So already probably the best mage in the game at pushing down towers, and they were like, no, he needs a special ability to make him wreck them even harder, | ||
Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:11 sob3k wrote: its clearly a mistake they arent giving a 365g item 15gp10, that would give you 900 gold at 10minutes completely passively. Not quite, but close. 765 gold at 10 minutes. 400 net. Still ridiculous though | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 09 2015 12:49 cLutZ wrote: Because there are too many power picks that make a significant portion of the T2 champions irrelevant right now. That's their fault for bringing out stupid champions such as Kalista and Azir. | ||
VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
That Deaths Daughter Upgrade on GP's ult is awesome. Same with Fire at Will. Raise moral is kind of meh unless you getting dove on real hard. I guess the zone control is pretty sweet. How long does it take to get 500 Silver Serpants? 500/4 gp per Parrrley = 125 creeps. Damn. And thats creeps killed by either Q or E. Speaking of which, it looks like GP could have some friggen sweet waveclear; E is like Zyra W or Azir W, has a charge mechanic with no CD and an 18s recharge time. Basically every wave if you have any CDR you can E+E+Q the entire wave! That pushing power. A Bruiser with potentially instant waveclear... interesting. I'm pumped for him. His passive looks greatly nerfed though. No Q Passive Procs. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/07/78-pbe-update.html | ||
Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the new passive looks god awful but there is an unlisted ad scaling so that might be it's saving grace if it's not like .1 or something, not being on hit makes it pretty shit, also note that it does not specify target type so when laneing if parrlay is on cd you have to blow it on a minion or lose the cs. ult damage changed to update twice per second instead of once, it is actually buffed if they sit in it full duration, but before that it alternates per wave so it's mostly a wash (before upgrades) so basically, ult super slight buff >> to massive buff after upgrades orange cd down from 18>14 at max rank but, the max heal is nerfed until you reach 1400 missing health, I would call this a nerf but it's arguable for tank builds E seems possily good but likely to be unreliable would have to play it and parrlay is unchanged other than not getting grog damage | ||
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 09 2015 13:35 Sufficiency wrote: That's their fault for bringing out stupid champions such as Kalista and Azir. Dont disagree, but its not Azir and Kalista exclusively, or even mid/adc. Maokai and Rumble are clearly a tier above in toplane once Ryze nerfs go through; Alistar and Annie are way too valuable bot because they have murdered engage, on the whole; Gragas plus Rek Sai are still the rulers of the jungle, even with Nidalee, Ekko, and Eve being competent picks. Midlane is actually the lane that is most OK because they have Azir, Viktor, Ryze, Ekko, Cassio plus viable niche picks like TF, Varus, Zed, Ori, etc. And while ADC is mostly Kalista/Sivir/Corki I think most the T2 options are close, compared with the other roles. | ||
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