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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 08 2015 15:12 GMT
#61
Elise
Cocoon (E) stun now 1.5 seconds at all ranks from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2
Cocoon (E) cooldown now 14/12.5/11/9.5/8 from 14/13/12/11/10

That's a pretty slight buff and I like it.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 08 2015 15:24 GMT
#62
On July 09 2015 00:12 739 wrote:
Elise
Cocoon (E) stun now 1.5 seconds at all ranks from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2
Cocoon (E) cooldown now 14/12.5/11/9.5/8 from 14/13/12/11/10

That's a pretty slight buff and I like it.

the good old reverse a nerf we did a while ago a riot special
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
July 08 2015 16:55 GMT
#63
On July 09 2015 00:24 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:12 739 wrote:
Elise
Cocoon (E) stun now 1.5 seconds at all ranks from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2
Cocoon (E) cooldown now 14/12.5/11/9.5/8 from 14/13/12/11/10

That's a pretty slight buff and I like it.

the good old reverse a nerf we did a while ago a riot special

But when people want nerfs reverted later they say Riot never does.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 17:17:25
July 08 2015 17:15 GMT
#64
On July 08 2015 06:25 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:59 Slayer91 wrote:
that slow stacking rule is super nice

ive never taken devouruer xin seriously i always thought it felt weaker than both good alternatives (cinderhulk and warrior)

warrior+ghostblade allows you to true damage one shot most squishies at the cost of a 2 dmg item jungler, cinderhulk increases synergy stacking your best stat

devourer is only good if you get to auto a lot which is rarely the case on xin since he's not really tanky enough to get away with it if he builds a devourer.
the on hit effect works on a fairly weak heal at that. seems like the devourer is only really good on yi irelia and malphite (im going malphite with devourer atm and it's super strong and an extra 100 dmg every second hit is only gonna be better)

unless xin q hits twice with devourer but even then it takes a while to stack up and stuff mightn't be worth it


The real issue is that the heal on his W is so high he basically cannot die if he isn't stunned. Instead of healing every third attack he heals every second attack. This would have made his per-attack heal 25+.35 AP which is simply an insane amount of healing.

It is true that his Q his twice with devourer, so you only need 2 attacks to trigger it instead of three. Which is an added bonus


is it really that insane? if you go devouruer+ap xin and do no damage and can be one combo'd by anyone?
im not salty or anything not like i went devouruer anyway but i just think its bemusing that riot lets items like runeglaive and ludens echo go out unchchecked but as soon at they change devourer they think WAIT WHAT ABOUT AP XIN??
On July 08 2015 09:04 Ryuu314 wrote:
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On July 08 2015 08:10 MoonBear wrote:
The slow change is pretty big sheesh. Same goes for the AP item changes.

I wonder what this means for Cassi and Ryze? Net buffs overall I think. Also seems like Smite Ez still works but timings are delayed a bit?

I think the slow change is the biggest change of the season 5 imo

Maybe more immobile non-gapcloser champs can see some play now. (loljk)


i love reading these sort of comments and looking at the champ flair to confirm my suspicions
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#65
I am wondering how the slow changes affect nasus. wither ramps up over time so it doesn't actually initially apply as that great of a slow. So if a stronger slow is on them will wither's atk speed debuff just be ignored if the slow isn't as good?
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 17:27:00
July 08 2015 17:26 GMT
#66
most likely it'll keep track of all slows and their potency and always apply the biggest one I don't think ritos code is that bad so i don't think it will effect attack speed slows at all
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 08 2015 17:28 GMT
#67
I am so excited about Rylai's. Finally I can build my favorite item again.
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droserin
Profile Joined September 2014
127 Posts
July 08 2015 17:29 GMT
#68
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 17:40:32
July 08 2015 17:36 GMT
#69
On July 08 2015 05:59 Slayer91 wrote:
that slow stacking rule is super nice

Now they just need to get rid of the diminishing returns formula on high/low MS.

EDIT: And make slows/MS boosts stack additively with each other rather than MS boosts stacking additively while slows multiply the final summed result (meaning that a champ getting a 15% MS boost and a 15% slow together ends up slower than base MS).
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 08 2015 17:38 GMT
#70
rylai's liandry's combo is way overbuffed yea. vlad will be the biggest abuser but other stuff like like sejuani/amumu might be pretty lulzy. Rumble might use this build too probably
I come in for the scraps
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 08 2015 18:01 GMT
#71
Rylai's only works on Flamespitter, bleh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 08 2015 18:05 GMT
#72
On July 09 2015 02:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
rylai's liandry's combo is way overbuffed yea. vlad will be the biggest abuser but other stuff like like sejuani/amumu might be pretty lulzy. Rumble might use this build too probably


I'm definitely going to ban Vlad every game with the new wota and general ap item changes. He was already really annoying, but now he got even worse.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 08 2015 18:11 GMT
#73
On July 09 2015 01:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:24 nafta wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:12 739 wrote:
Elise
Cocoon (E) stun now 1.5 seconds at all ranks from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2
Cocoon (E) cooldown now 14/12.5/11/9.5/8 from 14/13/12/11/10

That's a pretty slight buff and I like it.

the good old reverse a nerf we did a while ago a riot special

But when people want nerfs reverted later they say Riot never does.

they always do them too late that is why people complain both ways

those changes make ban phase such a chore
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 08 2015 18:56 GMT
#74
On July 09 2015 03:11 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 01:55 Gahlo wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:24 nafta wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:12 739 wrote:
Elise
Cocoon (E) stun now 1.5 seconds at all ranks from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2
Cocoon (E) cooldown now 14/12.5/11/9.5/8 from 14/13/12/11/10

That's a pretty slight buff and I like it.

the good old reverse a nerf we did a while ago a riot special

But when people want nerfs reverted later they say Riot never does.

they always do them too late that is why people complain both ways

those changes make ban phase such a chore


Sometimes it's so late that the champ isn't even in the meta or even remotely picked/banned.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 08 2015 19:49 GMT
#75
this is the first direct reversion other than Blitz w isn't it?
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
July 08 2015 19:54 GMT
#76
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Gross.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 08 2015 19:59 GMT
#77
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
July 08 2015 20:00 GMT
#78
On July 09 2015 04:59 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 02:29 droserin wrote:
On July 08 2015 21:35 Gahlo wrote:
Can anybody with PBE access tell me if Warrior still builds out of Brutalizer or not?

Pickaxe + Long sword + T2 Machete

Welp rip reksai (unless you're a cinderhulk pleb I guess).

Might as well go Devourer now.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 08 2015 20:05 GMT
#79
Does Warrior lose its armour pen? -_-
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
July 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#80
On July 09 2015 05:05 Ansibled wrote:
Does Warrior lose its armour pen? -_-

Yes.
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