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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 14 2015 18:37 GMT
#481
On July 15 2015 03:22 Koenig99 wrote:
Can anyone advise me on jungle Kayle runes/masteries? I've been trying several combinations lately but I get so low during my first clear that I can't even do 2 buffs before I have to back.

ohaidere
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Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
July 14 2015 18:58 GMT
#482
On July 15 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 03:22 Koenig99 wrote:
Can anyone advise me on jungle Kayle runes/masteries? I've been trying several combinations lately but I get so low during my first clear that I can't even do 2 buffs before I have to back.

ohaidere


Thanks for this. How does the kiting work now? I found that it's been difficult ever since they changed the leash system and I mess it up for often than not. Also, I just played a game where I started Krugs and found that to be much easier than Gromp start. Also, is there a reason for Runaan's before BorK? I keep going Bork after Nashors but will try Runaans third item.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 14 2015 19:24 GMT
#483
On July 15 2015 03:58 Koenig99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 15 2015 03:22 Koenig99 wrote:
Can anyone advise me on jungle Kayle runes/masteries? I've been trying several combinations lately but I get so low during my first clear that I can't even do 2 buffs before I have to back.

ohaidere


Thanks for this. How does the kiting work now? I found that it's been difficult ever since they changed the leash system and I mess it up for often than not. Also, I just played a game where I started Krugs and found that to be much easier than Gromp start. Also, is there a reason for Runaan's before BorK? I keep going Bork after Nashors but will try Runaans third item.

Should be using that thread...

Kiting just means you move back or to the side during your own attack animation cooldown. You'll take less damage than if you were to just stand in one place and take every one of Blue Golem's attacks.

Krugs is going to be easier clear for someone like Kayle because you're spec'd hard in AS and you get more Krug stuns. No surprise there.

Runaan is core because of the AoE proc. It's by far the biggest DPS spike you'll get out of the three AS items you get. In general, Nashor's is for the 20% CDR, Runaan's is for AoE, BotRK is for life steal, slow, and late game shred. You can fit in an early Vamp Scepter/Cutlass if you want but as I mentioned before, CDR is king, then (AS) damage.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 19:39:52
July 14 2015 19:35 GMT
#484
Kayle bot goes 28/2/0 and goes devourer/wits/runaans with lucidity boots, he also opens EW
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 14 2015 19:42 GMT
#485
I have pretty shitty PvE but both gromp start and crugs start full clears take me the same ammount of time. Also Botrk and ruunan's instead of rabadon's trigger me.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 14 2015 19:48 GMT
#486
Hat on Kayle? Even old AP lane Kayle got hat as like the 4th or 5th item.
Freeeeeeedom
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 20:21:55
July 14 2015 20:21 GMT
#487
--- Nuked ---
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 14 2015 20:35 GMT
#488
I guess it depends on if you're ballsy enough to do the ult into team gib carry hourglass play.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
July 14 2015 20:39 GMT
#489
Faker geos Zhonya´s, therefore it´s the correct choice.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 14 2015 20:40 GMT
#490
I mean if you're never going to ult Zhonya then I guess I can see logic in having Rylai instead, wouldn't do it though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 14 2015 21:07 GMT
#491
TF seems like a terrible user of Rylais slow though. His cards are AOE, not easy to hit, and in battle you are pulling Red/Gold (hopefully).

PLUS, if I were to see a good idea for new Rylais on TF it would be as an anti-dive item in concjuntion with Zhonyas (and maybe abyssal) so I don't get instagibbed by like, an Irelia-Rengar tagteam.
Freeeeeeedom
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 14 2015 21:35 GMT
#492
Zhonyas is ALWAYS a potentially great item on any AP.... What on earth in Tf's kit makes him not want 2.5s of invulnerability? Everyone wants that.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 21:36:46
July 14 2015 21:35 GMT
#493
Luden's, Lichbane, Cap, Void, Zhonya's seems like a nobrainer on TF, really. Rylai's is for either Liandry's synergy on long-fighting mages (think Viktor/Vel'koz/Brand) or on mages that need the health/slow to not die immediately (Cass)
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 14 2015 21:52 GMT
#494
I've never been a huge fan of Luden on TF, I feel like his pre-luden core of Void - hat - zhonya - cd item - lich fit his kit too well. I can get ditching the 20% cdr item but for me I'm not a fan.
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 14 2015 21:55 GMT
#495
On July 15 2015 05:21 krndandaman wrote:
botrk/runaan's is definitely better than deathcap on current kayle.

also anyone want to enlighten me on tf?
some TF main I met on soloq was adamant that zhonyas was an overrated item on TF and that it was completely unnecessary on 6 item TF's. according to him, ludens/deathcap/rylais > zhonyas by far. I was skeptical but he said he's been maining TF since s3 and has 500 tf games this season at d3.

when I asked for reasoning he just simply would tell us to stfu when we were genuinely curious about his reasoning ( he wasn't playing TF in the game, he was criticizing our TF's build)


am I missing something here or is he just a deluded tf main? i'm pretty sure zhonyas is one of the best items on TF and absolutely deserves a spot in a 6 item build even with all the ap item changes.

he is a tf main since s3 has 500 games this season in diamond 3 that should tell you enough about how smart he is
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
July 14 2015 22:33 GMT
#496
On July 15 2015 06:55 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 05:21 krndandaman wrote:
botrk/runaan's is definitely better than deathcap on current kayle.

also anyone want to enlighten me on tf?
some TF main I met on soloq was adamant that zhonyas was an overrated item on TF and that it was completely unnecessary on 6 item TF's. according to him, ludens/deathcap/rylais > zhonyas by far. I was skeptical but he said he's been maining TF since s3 and has 500 tf games this season at d3.

when I asked for reasoning he just simply would tell us to stfu when we were genuinely curious about his reasoning ( he wasn't playing TF in the game, he was criticizing our TF's build)


am I missing something here or is he just a deluded tf main? i'm pretty sure zhonyas is one of the best items on TF and absolutely deserves a spot in a 6 item build even with all the ap item changes.

he is a tf main since s3 has 500 games this season in diamond 3 that should tell you enough about how smart he is

Even so, if somebody is trying to learn why a decision is made "stfu and do it my way" is one of the worst responses to give.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 14 2015 22:38 GMT
#497
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried Devourer with Ekko jungle (build tank after Devourer)? In my mind it feels decent, but I could be totally wrong.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 22:51:11
July 14 2015 22:47 GMT
#498
his passive has a cd so it wouldn't do much unless they are in w passive range

which doesn't seem useless but I have my doubts
Carrilord has arrived.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 14 2015 23:01 GMT
#499
List of weirder onhit champions who you could go devourer on for fun:

Chagath: 80+.3AP maxed
Malph: 75+.1AP .1AR
Teemo: 50+.3AP
Udyr: 67+.15AP (if it was every hit, only procs every 3 hits for triple this)
Aatrox: 67+.33AD (if it was every hit, only procs every 3 hits for triple this)
Irelia: 75 true
Rumble: 120+.25 at 18
Volibear: 155+.3AP

On this note, what happens to draven with devourer? His spinning axe is an onhit effect, doubling axeplosion? Probably not.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 15 2015 00:19 GMT
#500
Have you guys gotten a random survey in post game screen asking you to rate the champion's gameplay and design you just played with from the scale of poor to excellent?
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