• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:59
CEST 06:59
KST 13:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy20ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy3GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
JD's Ro24 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3342 users

[Patch 5.13] Tahm Kench General Discussion - Page 24

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 41 Next All
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 14 2015 12:01 GMT
#461
On July 14 2015 08:22 Alaric wrote:
As someone who plays immobile mages.
Fuck that new Luden's holy shit.
It's shitting so hard on Viktor, in that last game there were both a Kog and a Diana. Hard to get close to Kog, hard to get away from Diana (not to say impossible).

That 10% MS is more than a pair of boots, even post-reductions (I think when I finally completed mine I went from 387 to 423 MS I think?). That's bonkers. I'm basically forced to buy it if anyone on the other team has it, just to keep up.

Kog just hit his Rylai's. The guy's really, really bad (we're losing a game while outplaying everyone because they picked Ezreal and Renekton into AP Kog, Jinx and Gnar, basically), but once he got Rylai's it stopped mattering at all. Going from 15% to 40% slow is pretty ridiculous, and makes it impossible for him to miss any one skillshot. Even with a dash or stuff, he's going to hit at least 2 Rs for any spell hitting a target.
The current patch hits LCS next week, right? I'm really curious to see who they'll use again with the items changes, but that new Rylai's on AP Kog is going to be bonkers.

You know who they will still play?

Viktor
Moderator。◕‿◕。
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 14 2015 12:17 GMT
#462
Can't really think of a mid that is being played right now that would suffer at all from luden's becoming mandatory except yasuo lol.
coolTLname
Profile Joined January 2015
United States315 Posts
July 14 2015 12:42 GMT
#463
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1886488991/31651622?tab=overview

=D the ezpzlmnsqz has returned
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
July 14 2015 13:18 GMT
#464
I used to diamond in S1/S2, and low diamond in S3 (iirc). I took a long break and have been playing again, but got placed in low gold. I main ADC; anyone in a similar boat or with a smurf and up for duoQ? I'll be on a good amount the coming days. IGN is Plain Skill on EUW.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 14 2015 14:22 GMT
#465
I've been really feeling Graves as a counter pick to devour jungles. If you keep your farm up you can put them at critical health before they can get on you thanks to how greedy most of them build. At first I was thinking Vayne and she works ok too but the front loaded damage is really handy vs. what they want to do to you.
Carrilord has arrived.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 14 2015 14:30 GMT
#466
You kind of ask to just lose the game if it goes longer than 25 minutes though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 14:37:12
July 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#467
That was only true when you had a cinderhulk tank to deal with, this is specifically a counter pick to a tankless team.

if they have 1 tank it's still decent because you have RLB active to help you chew thru one tank if you go the full skill damage build, which I do considering the reasoning behind the pick. I only think Graves starts to truely suck a D when his ult tickles the entire team.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 14 2015 15:01 GMT
#468
On July 14 2015 23:33 Slusher wrote:
That was only true when you had a cinderhulk tank to deal with, this is specifically a counter pick to a tankless team.

if they have 1 tank it's still decent because you have RLB active to help you chew thru one tank if you go the full skill damage build, which I do considering the reasoning behind the pick. I only think Graves starts to truely suck a D when his ult tickles the entire team.

RLB?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 14 2015 15:08 GMT
#469
I just realized I call yomuu red lotus blade and I don't even know why
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 14 2015 15:14 GMT
#470
On July 15 2015 00:08 Slusher wrote:
I just realized I call yomuu red lotus blade and I don't even know why

Did you play a lot of FF11?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 15:18:33
July 14 2015 15:15 GMT
#471
it sucked a d in ff11 Fast Blade took less skill and did way more damage

not to mention only Fast Blade can close Distortion :^)
Carrilord has arrived.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 14 2015 15:41 GMT
#472
On July 15 2015 00:08 Slusher wrote:
I just realized I call yomuu red lotus blade and I don't even know why


To be honest, that does sound like the cooler name.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 14 2015 16:07 GMT
#473
On July 15 2015 00:41 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 00:08 Slusher wrote:
I just realized I call yomuu red lotus blade and I don't even know why


To be honest, that does sound like the cooler name.

sounds like it should be irelia's W or something
Bronze player stuck in platinum
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2015 16:51 GMT
#474
playing graves sounds like an awful idea, 2 of the best unbanned devourer junglers (fizz, warwick) will fuck you before you can even do 1 AA in that range. caitlyn and vayne on the other hand are both incredibly aggravating to deal with. i see those 2 adcs in almost every game at high diamond currently
I come in for the scraps
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 14 2015 17:03 GMT
#475
Runeglaive Kayle has a higher winrate than Devourer Kayle on Champion.GG, anyone tried both?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 14 2015 17:08 GMT
#476
devourer is better but a lot of people who pick her just cuz she is the new op and are garbo on her feed
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 14 2015 17:09 GMT
#477
Keep in mind that Devourer has been played 9x more (and it's just one iteration of the build), so the winrate is likely lowered by all the new players jumping on Kayle train, as opposed to character specialists doing the runeglaive.

To actually answer your question no, I haven't, but I can't imagine runeglaive build being better than dełałer.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 17:12:27
July 14 2015 17:12 GMT
#478
On July 15 2015 02:03 Ansibled wrote:
Runeglaive Kayle has a higher winrate than Devourer Kayle on Champion.GG, anyone tried both?

Keep in mind that Devourer has a popular build of 900ish games while Runeglaive has ~150 in those metrics.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
July 14 2015 18:22 GMT
#479
Can anyone advise me on jungle Kayle runes/masteries? I've been trying several combinations lately but I get so low during my first clear that I can't even do 2 buffs before I have to back.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 14 2015 18:30 GMT
#480
On July 15 2015 03:22 Koenig99 wrote:
Can anyone advise me on jungle Kayle runes/masteries? I've been trying several combinations lately but I get so low during my first clear that I can't even do 2 buffs before I have to back.

just use the blue buff thing where you take no damage.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO32 Group A
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft429
RuFF_SC2 253
Nina 143
StarCraft: Brood War
scan(afreeca) 139
Noble 32
Icarus 9
NotJumperer 4
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm145
League of Legends
JimRising 649
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor92
Other Games
summit1g11804
PiGStarcraft227
Mew2King57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick608
BasetradeTV160
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 69
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH190
• Response 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1025
Other Games
• Shiphtur216
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 1m
WardiTV Team League
6h 1m
OSC
8h 1m
BSL
14h 1m
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
14h 1m
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
[ Show More ]
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Escore
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.