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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 18:14:31
June 01 2015 18:13 GMT
#341
I hope the players are given LAN accounts again so they can scrim with double digit ping :>

Actually no I hope they don't get accounts and have to scrim with 120 ping and bitch about it publicly and incessantly.
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 01 2015 18:17 GMT
#342
On June 02 2015 02:54 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 01:15 kongoline wrote:
so with all the buffs riot is giving to shen im expecting him to be pick/ban soon, i hope im wrong cuz time when shen was in every game was period of most boring tournament games in league history for me


Can you elaborate? I'm not a Top Lane/Shen expert but the changes look underwhelming to me. They're buffs, but where is Shen now that some MR and a slightly faster Ki Strike will take him from ignored to pick/ban?

Edit: The thread appears to have passed me by.

He's complaining about more or less any and every champion, even the weak ones he wishes for them to stay there.

Shen's a got a better time surviving with the MR/level (only exception now I think are Maokai, Singed and Poppy?), and he gets slightly more harass in lane, assuming he can time his passive right—he's the only melee champion amongst those with such a passive (see Ziggs, Kennen, etc.) are others (J4, Nautilus... ) are on a per-target basis.

The only significant buff I'd say is the lower enegy cost on taunt, so you can use it twice in a fight, although that'd usually require you to max it second to really feel the impact.
Shen's still really hard to have impact with ever since they nerfed his taunt's width, meaning you have to basically go through the center of an enemy's model with the center of yours to tag him, even at the end of the dash it's hard to get someone.
One practical laning application is that if you try to trade with someone, slightly walk up to them then taunt backwards to disengage, you can't anymore. You more or less have to walk behind before your taunt can hit him, so your ability to disengage is severely hampered

Plus it doesn't change the fact that Shen has a low damage output until very late in the game, and doesn't bring enough utility outside of his ult and taunt to make up for barely being able to make the enemy squishies notice him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 01 2015 18:17 GMT
#343
On June 02 2015 03:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I hope the players are given LAN accounts again so they can scrim with double digit ping :>

Actually no I hope they don't get accounts and have to scrim with 120 ping and bitch about it publicly and incessantly.


It's the finals only and not the entire playoffs, right? In that case, depending upon the teams who make it to the finals, they may not fly out until Wednesday or Thursday and just do scrims Thursday through Saturday. They probably will run into ping issues and bitch about it on Twitter, but who knows if it'll actually affect anything Riot does.

It could also be that Riot gets the NA server upgrades in place by then.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
June 01 2015 18:19 GMT
#344
On June 02 2015 02:17 kongoline wrote:
shen cant be strong in lane otherwise he can win lane for himself and other lanes at the same time, thats the reason he was nerfed before, i dont know what they are thinking throwing all the massive buffs i just hope im wrong and he will stay unpicked because i really hate that champion and influence he has on the game.


Kongoline hating a champion!? GASP

I just recently got my first penta but unfortunately it was unofficial. Had to dive fountain for it too. I was Diana.

Do you guys smite your buffs immediately on first camp? I ask because I've noticed it's pretty damn easy to steal it if you have a ranged ability level 1. Sometimes when I feel cheeky, and if I'm in a lane that's not gonna be good for me anyway, I ward gromp/rocks and Q it. Really screws over the jungle. And if I get it then I can come to lane level 2. It's a bit cheesy and risky but I'm silver so yolo. Anyway, because of my own success I've started to smite it only at the end for safety. Obviously a lot of this can be stopped by collapsing (which rarely happens) or proper warding (even when it does I still get it sometimes).

Poll: Do you smite first camp immediately?

Yes, I can't live without the smite buff! (11)
 
92%

Better safe than sorry, I smite to finish the buff! (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Do you smite first camp immediately?

(Vote): Yes, I can't live without the smite buff!
(Vote): Better safe than sorry, I smite to finish the buff!



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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 18:21:30
June 01 2015 18:21 GMT
#345
Depends upon the buff for me; if I'm starting Gromp or Krugs then I do smite immediately for the buff from them. Otherwise I save it to burst finish off the mob I'm hitting.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 01 2015 18:32 GMT
#346
i smite it immediately cause yolo
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 18:35:50
June 01 2015 18:33 GMT
#347
I tend to smite to kill camps. Partly out of habit, partly because it gets you a longer leash on the first camp, and partly for the longer effective duration. I've noticed that smiting to kill Gromp lets you carry its buff to Raptors and the beginning of red buff, which is quite helpful (using it only against Gromp saves me at most an auto compared to havingg to auto the small Raptors).

RG Karma is really fun to play. I haven't quite lived the full dream of Talisman, R->E, RG just yet, but laning has been solid and I still feel quite useful later in the game.
Trust in Bayes.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 18:58:15
June 01 2015 18:57 GMT
#348
I want to test out a high M.Pen, max CDR Karma build. Go something like Morellos, Athenes, Void, Liandrys, M.Pen Boots and have the last item be whatever (Rylei's, Glory, and Zhonyas are my initial thoughts). She has high base damage as-is, it's when the enemy team starts stacking MR that you see her damage drop off.

As for a support build, I do think Speedster Karma has potential (Talisman, RG, Mikaels, Liandrys/Void, Ruby Sightstone, Mobi Boots). Use the RG to run in and lock someone down with a W, use the R-E to shield everyone, and Talisman to engage/disengage with the R-E combo. You'd probably need to run CDR runes though.
Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
June 01 2015 18:58 GMT
#349
On June 02 2015 03:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
LCS matches are held on a tournament realm and if I really had to guess, they probably do bring servers on site for such events.

If this is the case, then why Tallahasee? Hue
I am who you think I am
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 19:13:38
June 01 2015 19:12 GMT
#350
So the idea is to spam movement speed items and then let you team run super fast into a 4 vs 5 fight?
considering you're essentially an ap carry building full tank with low base damage and cc

its like giving superman a super fast jet made of kryptonite
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 19:22:54
June 01 2015 19:22 GMT
#351
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 01 2015 19:42 GMT
#352
It just came upon me that since Thresh's stun is "spiced" with 2 to 3 pulls, even if you have Tenacity you can't technically reduce the cc duration because you'll get pulled while you were supposed not to be stunned anymore.
I'm not sure if there's a point for me to go mercs when he's the main source of cc in the enemy team then...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 19:48:44
June 01 2015 19:47 GMT
#353
Also I can't wait for the shitstorm when people realize MSG tickets are probably gonna be $300+, especially with Ticketmaster fees.
TranslatorBaa!
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
June 01 2015 19:51 GMT
#354
On June 02 2015 04:12 Slayer91 wrote:
So the idea is to spam movement speed items and then let you team run super fast into a 4 vs 5 fight?
considering you're essentially an ap carry building full tank with low base damage and cc

its like giving superman a super fast jet made of kryptonite


No, the idea is to use the movespeed to engage when favorable and disengage when unfavorable. I also don't recommend using all of your CDs to run at their team and hoping for the best.

On June 02 2015 04:22 krndandaman wrote:
righteous glory is a bit overkill.

I prefer spellthiefs -> mobis -> sightstone -> ardent censer -> talisman -> mikaels

new ardent censer is super good on karma right now. 30magic onhit +15%as to everyone on your team, especially at an earlier timing is huge.
and with just talisman/R+E you essentially have a sivir ulti every 20 seconds or so.


Interesting, I'll definitely try Ardent Censer (it completely slipped my mind). Do you find the regen sufficient?
Trust in Bayes.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 01 2015 20:03 GMT
#355
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 01 2015 20:14 GMT
#356

So this mini cait buff has gone out on PBE, thoughts?
Glorious SEA doto
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
June 01 2015 20:15 GMT
#357
Haha, if nothing else, that second change would prevent something like this from happening again:

Trust in Bayes.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 20:17:25
June 01 2015 20:16 GMT
#358
I tried karma support again and it still didn't feel that strong to me, people also tend not to take advantage of the speed boost in soloque. Organized would work better. Catching people with W is really really sketch because you are so squishy you can get blown up in an instant if your team isn't right behind you.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 01 2015 20:18 GMT
#359
Cait ult change is really nice.
TranslatorBaa!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 01 2015 20:27 GMT
#360

Alright now this is interesting
Glorious SEA doto
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