EPT[Patch 5.9] Ashe Rework General Discussion - Page 60
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 24 2015 02:26 101toss wrote: It's not finetuning, it's overhauling Why they are deploying a system that issues 14 day bans right off the bat for shit like this baffles me. It's pretty stupid to the extent that I have a friend that now just feeds and if anyone calls him out, flaming or not, he reports them due to the rather likely chance they would get banned, and the satisfaction of seeing the ban report keeps him going. What's wrong with the system: -14 day/perm bans, no grey area, in a new system bound to have issues. -"GG easy" is possibly weighted the same as calling someone the n-word. -Promotes other forms of toxic activity while killing in-game communication. -Dragging out games that are obvious losses because everyone is afraid to say "ff pls" or "game is over, 30/0 mid and jg" (more of an issue in lower elos), adding toxicity -No idea what is considered bannable besides the obvious offensive language. -Getting banned for non-toxic and possibly friendly language anyways. -Giving me a bigger reason to troll your promos You can't finetune this shit, not with what we know about the system. The lack of transparency is another kick in the nuts. Sure, you could argue that if you said the specifics, people might try to bypass the system, but the pros outweigh the cons. It seems increasingly clear, as we get more evidence, the at they released it so as to make a splash with the bloodthirsty "Lyte Smyte" community. Also, its seems that since they allegedly used machine learning to train the system, what happened is that (shock) "toxic" players actually use the same dictionary as normal players. So if you feed it primarily "cases" it will think every word is bad, more or less. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 24 2015 03:04 Caiada wrote: Aside from outliers, what's bannable seems pretty obvious, but you seem to be the type this system targets, so why am I even responding. I wish I could say the system affects me, but I normally don't talk shit in chat unless with friends. Only change I have to make is being more careful in general. Doesn't mean I can't troll people's promos. Considering I've never been banned/chat restricted outside of an eloboosting incident, I'd say I'm fine. On May 24 2015 03:07 cLutZ wrote: It seems increasingly clear, as we get more evidence, the at they released it so as to make a splash with the bloodthirsty "Lyte Smyte" community. Also, its seems that since they allegedly used machine learning to train the system, what happened is that (shock) "toxic" players actually use the same dictionary as normal players. So if you feed it primarily "cases" it will think every word is bad, more or less. Bonus points when the system can't detect sarcasm or context clues. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4800 Posts
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Mensol
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so they cant even see if you flame. | ||
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kongoline
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 24 2015 03:46 kongoline wrote: so pretty much heroes of storm where there is no /all chat and allied chat can be removed in options, lyte needs to get real and stop trying to fix internet It just needs to be like Hearthstone where you pick from a very limited subset of pre-written options, and you just spam "well played" when you want to be rude. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 24 2015 03:46 kongoline wrote: so pretty much heroes of storm where there is no /all chat and allied chat can be removed in options, lyte needs to get real and stop trying to fix internet we also need to add the dicksucking in the game, when soraka heals you, your character says "excellent healing my friend" between the new ranked system, the honor system, the mastery system, and the chat restriction system, we are well on our way towards HotS | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 24 2015 04:41 AsnSensation wrote: How do you guys play against strong top champions like rengar or riven who like to take ignite to "cheese" a lvl 2-3 kill instead of tp but your own jungler doesn't want to punish that? I guess letting the wave push to your own side in case there was a bad trade (best case forcing the ignite) and then recalling so you can still pick up the farm with a tp back to tower. Pretty much.Or just pick renekton and kill them. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 24 2015 04:41 AsnSensation wrote: How do you guys play against strong top champions like rengar or riven who like to take ignite to "cheese" a lvl 2-3 kill instead of tp but your own jungler doesn't want to punish that? I guess letting the wave push to your own side in case there was a bad trade (best case forcing the ignite) and then recalling so you can still pick up the farm with a tp back to tower. try not to die lvl 2-3? Is playing passive so hard? just literally don't try to trade at all until you get to base and tp back the only time you watn to trade is in your own creepwave to force him to use his aoe skills on your creeps so it pushes without you losing more than a few cs | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On May 24 2015 04:41 AsnSensation wrote: How do you guys play against strong top champions like rengar or riven who like to take ignite to "cheese" a lvl 2-3 kill instead of tp but your own jungler doesn't want to punish that? I guess letting the wave push to your own side in case there was a bad trade (best case forcing the ignite) and then recalling so you can still pick up the farm with a tp back to tower. Go Ignite(or exhaust)/TP and out-cheese them. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Smite teleport. Get level 2 off camp. Teleport back into lane with level advantage. Shove hard, get to level 3 when they're only level 2. Congrats you've just avoided the level 2-3 cheesem | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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brokenwatch
Azerbaijan99 Posts
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