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Carnivorous Sheep
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: It's terrible champ design because it's so at odds with how earlier champs functioned, so as Zdra said, eventually no one is going to play old champs unless they like losing. I mean it's already true to a large extent. It's ok, Riot is destroying the core identity of old champs like Veigar at a fast enough rate that they don't need to make new champs to obsolete them.  | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: "Fun" champs are also really stupid to play on East Coast ping vs. West coast ping so maybe Riot should focus on that first. I honestly can't wait to see the incoming shit show that will be NAE and NAW when Riot FINALLY does something to the NA servers. I mean, in terms of distance (excluding Alaska and Hawaii) the US is almost twice the size of Europe. And Riot expects to keep NA all on one server, when even in Europe they realized how dumb that was and made EUW and EUNE? Like the only place Riot could put servers to make it "fair" in terms of distance is probably Texas or somewhere in the Great Plains (maybe Chicago?) if they wanted to keep NA on one server. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:41 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Oh, there are definitely only Kalista and Ashe from all adcs, double cinderhulk + shittons of point-and-click is irrelevant, 100 range buff to botrk active which isn't working in half of situations anyway is going to kill the game. i dont think cinderhulk is that op anymore, as a 6item full tank zac even with hp/lvl seals i got only 540 bonus hp from passive that makes it slighly better than warmog super late game, its still probably better than warrior cuz tanks are so much easier to play in team fights but only very top tier tanks are broken with it (gragas sej) rest are just viable, they nerfed botrk before for a reason and now they make same mistake as always, nerf tanks same time they buff items which are counter to them meanwhile screwing everyone in the middle who isnt top tier right now | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:53 Kinie wrote: I honestly can't wait to see the incoming shit show that will be NAE and NAW when Riot FINALLY does something to the NA servers. I mean, in terms of distance (excluding Alaska and Hawaii) the US is almost twice the size of Europe. And Riot expects to keep NA all on one server, when even in Europe they realized how dumb that was and made EUW and EUNE? Like the only place Riot could put servers to make it "fair" in terms of distance is probably Texas or somewhere in the Great Plains (maybe Chicago?) if they wanted to keep NA on one server. EU was done for population reasons not ping ones iirc | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:53 Kinie wrote: I honestly can't wait to see the incoming shit show that will be NAE and NAW when Riot FINALLY does something to the NA servers. I mean, in terms of distance (excluding Alaska and Hawaii) the US is almost twice the size of Europe. And Riot expects to keep NA all on one server, when even in Europe they realized how dumb that was and made EUW and EUNE? Like the only place Riot could put servers to make it "fair" in terms of distance is probably Texas or somewhere in the Great Plains (maybe Chicago?) if they wanted to keep NA on one server. Eu isn't 2 servers because of server position but because of too many players. Before the split I used to ask my mom/dad to get in que to login at 1pm so I would be able to get in by 5/6  | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:53 Kinie wrote: I honestly can't wait to see the incoming shit show that will be NAE and NAW when Riot FINALLY does something to the NA servers. I mean, in terms of distance (excluding Alaska and Hawaii) the US is almost twice the size of Europe. And Riot expects to keep NA all on one server, when even in Europe they realized how dumb that was and made EUW and EUNE? Like the only place Riot could put servers to make it "fair" in terms of distance is probably Texas or somewhere in the Great Plains (maybe Chicago?) if they wanted to keep NA on one server. EUW alone has more players than entire NA though and iirc EUW and EUNE servers are in the same location, so not quite the same situation as in NA. double zeded  | ||
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: "Outplay" in the context of League is just Riot code word for "do OP shit that other champs can't do." Example: Leblanc, Fizz, Ekko, Yasuo, etc. It's terrible champ design because it's so at odds with how earlier champs functioned, so as Zdra said, eventually no one is going to play old champs unless they like losing. I mean it's already true to a large extent. Would you say Vayne counts? I say no. Even if most of us mains are toxic qq I hate being stereotyped for the champion I like to play the most qq Also probably the only thing I don't miss from school is the constant 120 ping + lag spikes whenever a teamfight starts | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 28 2015 04:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: "Outplay" in the context of League is just Riot code word for "do OP shit that other champs can't do." Example: Leblanc, Fizz, Ekko, Yasuo, etc. It's terrible champ design because it's so at odds with how earlier champs functioned, so as Zdra said, eventually no one is going to play old champs unless they like losing. I mean it's already true to a large extent. Surprised you left out Lee Sin, the first champion who really exemplified this problem. | ||
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
Jarvan was actually super problematic back in the day too, to the point where people would be as hyperbolic as to say "if none of Jarvan's skills did damage he'd still be top tier." It really puts into perspective just how much power creep there has been in League. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
I mean, lets face it; the last time Riot said anything about servers in NA it was early 2015 (late January I think?) and they basically said, "we're working on it, no ETA for anything." I'm in the Midwest so my ping is ok (80-100 ms on average) but it's so annoying to have it spike right when a teamfight happens and you get treated to a slide show for a couple seconds before seeing if the buttons you mashed did anything meaningful or if it got eaten up in the lag storm. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 28 2015 05:23 Kinie wrote: I get that the reason for EUW and EUNE was population issues, but distance is still a bit of a factor there. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Servers According to this website both EUW and EUNE servers are in same city. I assume that only reason NA didn't create an NAE server is because they don't want to split a small community? | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
Riot needs to do something about east coast ping and shit, it's ridiculous | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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