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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#1681
idk i have seen tons of comebacks in NA LCS thanks to dignitascoast baron throws.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
May 27 2015 17:17 GMT
#1682
Question about Kalista: When do you build Ruunan's and when do you build Shiv? What are the trade offs? I always see Bang build Shiv, but I see all NA ADCs build Ruunan's.
darkness overpowering
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2015 17:18 GMT
#1683
Btw someone less lazy than me should compile the challenger series qualifier results ~_~
Glorious SEA doto
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#1684
Comeback potential isn't exactly a good measure of how mechanically unforgiving a game is. For the most part mistakes that actually lead to comebacks aren't mechanical.

Comeback potential also hasn't really been static through League's history since the playerbase has some arbitrary idea of an ideal value for it being not too easy but not too hard---so Riot at various points has actively tried to make comebacks easier or harder through systemic changes.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#1685
does any1 has the math for graves Q nerfs? I think i did better in this patch which i thought i suppose to get rekt in lane since his flavor of the month is over long ago.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 27 2015 17:27 GMT
#1686
You do less damage unless you hit all 3, but Graves' issues have been sustained damage output and survivability more than anything, which is more a teamfight thing than a laning one.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
May 27 2015 17:29 GMT
#1687
On May 28 2015 02:25 justiceknight wrote:
does any1 has the math for graves Q nerfs? I think i did better in this patch which i thought i suppose to get rekt in lane since his flavor of the month is over long ago.


I don't remember the exact math, but I think the tl;dr version of when the nerf hit is that unless you have an IE or BT and are point-blanking the Q shot (so that all the projectiles hit the same target) it's a nerf. Once you have the IE or BT it's about the same amount of damage, maybe missing 10-20 points of damage per projectile.

Also, are liquibets going to be up soon or are those reserved for playoffs only?
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 27 2015 17:31 GMT
#1688
On May 28 2015 02:18 Fusilero wrote:
Btw someone less lazy than me should compile the challenger series qualifier results ~_~

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_EU_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier
http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_NA_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier

?

Also this is the perfect time to plug clip where me and Scip REK caseking's mid/jungle :> http://www.hitbox.tv/video/518874/description
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2015 17:34 GMT
#1689
I set you up for that brag kot, you're welcome
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 18:00:06
May 27 2015 17:54 GMT
#1690
On May 28 2015 02:17 ghrur wrote:
Question about Kalista: When do you build Ruunan's and when do you build Shiv? What are the trade offs? I always see Bang build Shiv, but I see all NA ADCs build Ruunan's.

always go hurricane cuz more fun to use also better

graves just kinda sucks cuz when 2 cinderhulks run at you cant really do much.You have to flank with r on squishies but that requires too much brain usage so cant reliably do it.

something about hurricane that a lot of people overlook is that your support can proc w or if you have a braum you can stun multiple people at once
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
May 27 2015 17:55 GMT
#1691
On May 28 2015 02:17 ghrur wrote:
Question about Kalista: When do you build Ruunan's and when do you build Shiv? What are the trade offs? I always see Bang build Shiv, but I see all NA ADCs build Ruunan's.


http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/478506-revenge-of-runaan-comparing-kalista-builds

MAYBE IF YOU READ OUR ARTICLES YOU'D KNOW
TranslatorBaa!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 27 2015 18:26 GMT
#1692
On May 28 2015 02:31 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 02:18 Fusilero wrote:
Btw someone less lazy than me should compile the challenger series qualifier results ~_~

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_EU_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier
http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_NA_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier

?

Also this is the perfect time to plug clip where me and Scip REK caseking's mid/jungle :> http://www.hitbox.tv/video/518874/description


you played that really badly actually facechecking the nidalee whiel viktor was right there and tauntd wtf?
aka Teutonica
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 27 2015 18:35 GMT
#1693
On May 28 2015 03:26 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 02:31 AlterKot wrote:
On May 28 2015 02:18 Fusilero wrote:
Btw someone less lazy than me should compile the challenger series qualifier results ~_~

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_EU_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier
http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_NA_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier

?

Also this is the perfect time to plug clip where me and Scip REK caseking's mid/jungle :> http://www.hitbox.tv/video/518874/description


you played that really badly actually facechecking the nidalee whiel viktor was right there and tauntd wtf?

to be fair he wasnt the only one who played it badly scip only person who didnt do something retarded lol
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 18:38:48
May 27 2015 18:38 GMT
#1694
yeah standard
viktor forgot how much ad rammus has lol just lost all his hp walking past him
aka Teutonica
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 27 2015 18:38 GMT
#1695
On May 28 2015 03:26 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 02:31 AlterKot wrote:
On May 28 2015 02:18 Fusilero wrote:
Btw someone less lazy than me should compile the challenger series qualifier results ~_~

http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_EU_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier
http://lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_NA_Challenger_Series/Summer_Qualifier

?

Also this is the perfect time to plug clip where me and Scip REK caseking's mid/jungle :> http://www.hitbox.tv/video/518874/description


you played that really badly actually facechecking the nidalee whiel viktor was right there and tauntd wtf?

Probably just tunnel vision and haven't noticed that scip taunted viktor. But I also didn't want her to flank us and thought I could chase. Also I had both summs and minions so wasn't scared of facechecking.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 18:41:41
May 27 2015 18:39 GMT
#1696
that doesnt make any sense wtf?
a rammus is coming to lane so you think he's going to be able to taunt the further away nidalee with hyper mobility?

the correct play would be to hide behind the creeps get your q+auto on viktor and then stutter to the right side and burn flashes
luckily they fucked up and went in missing everything

for example nidalee fired a doomed spear at scip when he could easily have hit and killed you
aka Teutonica
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#1697
The correct play is to be Korean and just dominate your opponent and make them look silly.
Hey! How you doin'?
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 27 2015 18:44 GMT
#1698
No, I thought Viktor would escape and Scip would stand between me and him so I would be safe to 1v1 nid. And like I said I haven't noticed that scip smite taunted him so I thought going for a q-auto on viktor would leave me open to nid.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 18:47:37
May 27 2015 18:46 GMT
#1699


The spotlight for Ekko is out now.

This hero looks disgusting.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 18:47:19
May 27 2015 18:46 GMT
#1700
On May 28 2015 03:44 AlterKot wrote:
No, I thought Viktor would escape and Scip would stand between me and him so I would be safe to 1v1 nid. And like I said I haven't noticed that scip smite taunted him so I thought going for a q-auto on viktor would leave me open to nid.

Why would a rammus come to your lane if it isn't his intention to taunt enemy laner?Also you can't 1v1 nid if she plays it properly but she played it like a retard.
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