EPTThe Kalista/Annie thing can be pretty annoying, agreed.
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NeoIllusions
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The Kalista/Annie thing can be pretty annoying, agreed. | ||
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Antifate
United States415 Posts
Now she just has the worst attack speed in the game for no reason. Her autos were really a big part of her gameplay, as her spells have absurdly low range. Compared to other supports, she has terrible sustain and all-in potential, but used to be able to make up for this with her great harass potential. And it's not as though her harass is free or toxic. While 625 AA range outranges nearly every champion AA, using it puts her in range for just about every non-summoner spell one sees in the bot lane. One slip-up and Annie gets blown up. Honestly I'd much rather Riot tweak Annie's instagib potential rather than her laning presence. Edit: Actually I'd rather Riot leave Annie alone, her pick/win rates are nothing special. Definitely not warranting such a huge nerf. | ||
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Slusher
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 14 2015 09:32 Antifate wrote: Why is Annie getting nerfed so heavily for what is really a Kalista mechanic? I'm sad, she's always been my go-to support. Now she just has the worst attack speed in the game for no reason. Her autos were really a big part of her gameplay, as her spells have absurdly low range. Compared to other supports, she has terrible sustain and all-in potential, but used to be able to make up for this with her great harass potential. And it's not as though her harass is free or toxic. While 625 AA range outranges nearly every champion AA, using it puts her in range for just about every non-summoner spell one sees in the bot lane. One slip-up and Annie gets blown up. Honestly I'd much rather Riot tweak Annie's instagib potential rather than her laning presence. Edit: Actually I'd rather Riot leave Annie alone, her pick/win rates are nothing special. Definitely not warranting such a huge nerf. Because her range had been an issue in the past and now there are extenuating circumstances to her play. Please tell me you didn't say Annie has bad all-in before talking about how they should work on her instagib instead. On May 14 2015 09:36 Slusher wrote: is it just me or does the version of abyssal on the pbe suck? it looks super bad It's a hot steamy pile of garbage. APs are annoyed by lack of AP, tanks don't really give a shit about the AP and are miffed at the low HP. The damage pule being every 4 seconds is beyond trash. At best you're starting the fight as Pulse 1 goes off, making the battle last 8 seconds before you can fully stack it. At worst it goes off right before the fight and you need to wait 12. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Antifate
United States415 Posts
On May 14 2015 09:39 Gahlo wrote: Because her range had been an issue in the past and now there are extenuating circumstances to her play. Please tell me you didn't say Annie has bad all-in before talking about how they should work on her instagib instead. I should have clarified that I was talking about her poor all-in potential within the frame of the classic all-in, pre-6 skirmishes of bot and talking about her instagib potential with respect to mid/late game (i.e. low base damage, huge AP ratios). Maybe I'm just terribad, but Annie feels much weaker at the level 2/3 all-in (either avoiding/discouraging it or initiating/winning it) than conventional supports, much less actual aggressive supports like Blitz/Thresh/Leona. Secondly, I'm ignorant and incredulous as to how/why her range has been an issue. Clear to explain? Her range is longer than most champions' AA, yes, but using it is not completely safe. Lastly, if for some reason Annie does need to get nerfed, I'd rather they change her solo burst mage potential than her support potential (as Annie really isn't too great of a solo anyway). | ||
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chalice
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ekko/Background | ||
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NeoIllusions
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 14 2015 10:02 NeoIllusions wrote: Are people going Cinder or Warrior on Xin? Yes.  + Show Spoiler + http://www.probuilds.net/champions/XinZhao | ||
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chalice
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
How long has this been happening? Two patch cycles? Why the change? Personally I liked having the patch notes in the OP but I think I know why you decided to drop them. Can't say I blame you. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 14 2015 10:12 Frudgey wrote: Wait Neo do you not include the actual patch notes in the OP anymore? You just include the link? How long has this been happening? Two patch cycles? Why the change? Personally I liked having the patch notes in the OP but I think I know why you decided to drop them. Can't say I blame you. On April 30 2015 01:29 NeoIllusions wrote: After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead. | ||
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krndandaman
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Carnivorous Sheep
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MooMooMugi
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Slusher
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 14 2015 10:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ROFL that vid is like a giant slap in the face to everyone who is busy circlejerking about how important communication is. heh, chauster got the last laugh. iirc he talked about how ideal comms woudl be super minimal since all 5 players already knew what to do. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On May 14 2015 10:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ROFL that vid is like a giant slap in the face to everyone who is busy circlejerking about how important communication is. 5 Players communicating in secondary(tertiary) language for all of them lol. Not one of them probably speaks anywhere close to enough english to hold a decent conversation, and yet here they are, currently #1 team in the world. | ||
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