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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2015 07:23 GMT
#101
On May 14 2015 16:18 Kinie wrote:
Someone care to TL;DR the Link manifesto? I'd rather not read through all that if possible.



On May 14 2015 15:52 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 15:25 Call_me_b_ wrote:
LOL, can someone summarize the letter?


hi, I'm link. I play lol. I started.........I joined CLG....CLG is an ass org....Montecristo was ineffective because everyone ignored him....the whole team is toxic like Grimer....I wish everyone well.


All ellipses should be interpreted as Link stating "I am a top NA player".
Freeeeeeedom
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 14 2015 07:29 GMT
#102
On May 14 2015 16:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 16:18 Kinie wrote:
Someone care to TL;DR the Link manifesto? I'd rather not read through all that if possible.



Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 15:52 cLutZ wrote:
On May 14 2015 15:25 Call_me_b_ wrote:
LOL, can someone summarize the letter?


hi, I'm link. I play lol. I started.........I joined CLG....CLG is an ass org....Montecristo was ineffective because everyone ignored him....the whole team is toxic like Grimer....I wish everyone well.


All ellipses should be interpreted as Link stating "I am a top NA player".

you skipped the part where dlift is cancer
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 14 2015 07:37 GMT
#103
On May 14 2015 16:29 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 16:23 cLutZ wrote:
On May 14 2015 16:18 Kinie wrote:
Someone care to TL;DR the Link manifesto? I'd rather not read through all that if possible.



On May 14 2015 15:52 cLutZ wrote:
On May 14 2015 15:25 Call_me_b_ wrote:
LOL, can someone summarize the letter?


hi, I'm link. I play lol. I started.........I joined CLG....CLG is an ass org....Montecristo was ineffective because everyone ignored him....the whole team is toxic like Grimer....I wish everyone well.


All ellipses should be interpreted as Link stating "I am a top NA player".

you skipped the part where dlift is cancer


Only a small child wouldn't know that.
Freeeeeeedom
MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
May 14 2015 08:39 GMT
#104
Think twitch chat says it best -

Formerly CLG Link here, I just wanted to say that the main problem with CLG was not me choking, but deflecting blame onto other players. Please read my 17 page document deflecting all the blame onto my team mates. Farewell! #CLGFIGHTING
http://www.twitch.tv/magnuswolf sometimes I stream, sometimes I don't
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 14 2015 08:52 GMT
#105
Link went full Kripparian at times in that reveal.

Though it was also cool to see a look-in at times at the state of CLG. Was a much bigger of a hot mess than I thought, which is saying something.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
May 14 2015 09:06 GMT
#106
On May 14 2015 16:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 16:18 Kinie wrote:
Someone care to TL;DR the Link manifesto? I'd rather not read through all that if possible.



Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 15:52 cLutZ wrote:
On May 14 2015 15:25 Call_me_b_ wrote:
LOL, can someone summarize the letter?


hi, I'm link. I play lol. I started.........I joined CLG....CLG is an ass org....Montecristo was ineffective because everyone ignored him....the whole team is toxic like Grimer....I wish everyone well.


All ellipses should be interpreted as Link stating "I am a top NA player".


He said "at that time I still thought I was top 3 midlaner NA". Which isn't overstatement at all. He's definitely at Hai/Pobelter level.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 14 2015 09:12 GMT
#107
On May 14 2015 17:52 Apex wrote:
Link went full Kripparian at times in that reveal.

Though it was also cool to see a look-in at times at the state of CLG. Was a much bigger of a hot mess than I thought, which is saying something.


Is it? Lmao.
Pretty sure that every guy who cheered for CLG ever knows that this team never had strong voice since season 2, that's pretty much leitmotif of Link's rant.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 09:18:18
May 14 2015 09:17 GMT
#108
On May 14 2015 10:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Are people going Cinder or Warrior on Xin?


If you get warrior+ghostblade 42 flat armpen +your passive +max CDR (3 second cd e/q) +ghostblade active lets you chase down and kill any adc in seconds.
The problem is in most games you're one of the few melees against a team full of ranged with peelers so its better to just go cinderhulk and tank.

If the enemy is picking assassins and such its still really good, its just if they have really good protect and you dont have a team with reliable people to take some of the focus from you its not so smart.
cinderhulk+tank with max cdr will always do OK damage and you'll be quite tanky and have decent disrupt with 3 s cd knockup/slow and an aoe knockback but you won't be able to duel fed adcs or anything.
aka Teutonica
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 14 2015 09:22 GMT
#109
DL's response if anyone cares.
https://www.facebook.com/CLGDoublelift/posts/850049701742995

his implication about how bot lane communicates more, and therefore gets more ganks actually does make a lot of sense. but the problem still stems from poor coaching, because we have teams with shit communication with their jungler and laners due to language barriers, yet they are able to work out ganks just fine with minimum communication.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 14 2015 09:41 GMT
#110
On May 14 2015 18:17 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 10:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Are people going Cinder or Warrior on Xin?


If you get warrior+ghostblade 42 flat armpen +your passive +max CDR (3 second cd e/q) +ghostblade active lets you chase down and kill any adc in seconds.
The problem is in most games you're one of the few melees against a team full of ranged with peelers so its better to just go cinderhulk and tank.

If the enemy is picking assassins and such its still really good, its just if they have really good protect and you dont have a team with reliable people to take some of the focus from you its not so smart.
cinderhulk+tank with max cdr will always do OK damage and you'll be quite tanky and have decent disrupt with 3 s cd knockup/slow and an aoe knockback but you won't be able to duel fed adcs or anything.

I assume Cinder, Cleaver, into full tank?
Played 4-5 games on Xin on 5.8 and while most of the time it's was fun, the scenario you painted of a team with a lot of peel really made me feel useless and wishing I had a hard CC like Sej or Rek.
I think one game was against Hec, Lee, Syndra, Rango, Sivir. It was just too hard to get a pick on either carry.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 09:59:21
May 14 2015 09:59 GMT
#111
You don't even need cleaver honestly but yeah it's pretty good probably
aka Teutonica
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
May 14 2015 11:25 GMT
#112
BTW team flairs for TDK / Origen / EDG and NME are up ^^
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 14 2015 11:27 GMT
#113
SBENU flair soontm
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 11:33:54
May 14 2015 11:32 GMT
#114
Switching from my beloved CLG icon for a little bit because I actually really like the NME logo, and jerseys. I'll be back soon enough though because I hate myself.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
May 14 2015 11:39 GMT
#115
Eh, Dlift has been the constant factor in the losing CLG organization. He's certainly not the only one to blame, but his ego is too big for his britches. The only one who was able of stemming that was Chauster I think, by being more berating and belittling than Dlift himself.

All in all, CLG should have a coach who has power over Dlift. As in Dlift is in danger of losing his job if he fucks the team.

The Peter Peng that absolutely had to play well or he'd be homeless is gone.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 11:42:39
May 14 2015 11:41 GMT
#116
On May 14 2015 20:39 Doctorbeat wrote:
Eh, Dlift has been the constant factor in the losing CLG organization. He's certainly not the only one to blame, but his ego is too big for his britches. The only one who was able of stemming that was Chauster I think, by being more berating and belittling than Dlift himself.

All in all, CLG should have a coach who has power over Dlift. As in Dlift is in danger of losing his job if he fucks the team.

The Peter Peng that absolutely had to play well or he'd be homeless is gone.


It's his last split anyway, you'd imagine that he's going to try his ass out one last time, just for sake of pride.

On May 14 2015 20:41 las91 wrote:
Link seriously fucked up most possibility of landing another team, you don't do huge expose/complain blog type shit and throw a temper tantrum by revealing inner workings of team/bad mouthing people you don't like. NA is super nepotism zone though so maybe he'll still have a shot in some challenger team.

I've been seeing more Xin I'll have to try it, what are people's thoughts on Sej/Grag/Rek? Even with the cinderhulk change it seems like they'll be perfectly fine to keep spamming.


He's done anyway, he wrote it in blog and going back to Berkeley.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 11:45:42
May 14 2015 11:41 GMT
#117
Link seriously fucked up most possibility of landing another team, you don't do huge expose/complain blog type shit and throw a temper tantrum by revealing inner workings of team/bad mouthing people you don't like. NA is super nepotism zone though so maybe he'll still have a shot in some challenger team. EDIT: yeah saw at the end he's said he's done, nice to go out on such a positive and upbeat note LOL what a child

I've been seeing more Xin I'll have to try it, what are people's thoughts on Sej/Grag/Rek? Even with the cinderhulk change it seems like they'll be perfectly fine to keep spamming.
In Inca we trust
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 14 2015 11:58 GMT
#118
On May 14 2015 20:41 las91 wrote:
Link seriously fucked up most possibility of landing another team, you don't do huge expose/complain blog type shit and throw a temper tantrum by revealing inner workings of team/bad mouthing people you don't like. NA is super nepotism zone though so maybe he'll still have a shot in some challenger team. EDIT: yeah saw at the end he's said he's done, nice to go out on such a positive and upbeat note LOL what a child

I've been seeing more Xin I'll have to try it, what are people's thoughts on Sej/Grag/Rek? Even with the cinderhulk change it seems like they'll be perfectly fine to keep spamming.

While the nerf to the AOE sucks, in the end Cinderhulk is doing the job it always should: Give jungle tanks more gold efficiency with a bit of damage to aid ganks and clears.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 14 2015 13:14 GMT
#119
For anyone interested, Unyielding works on every single tick of a DoT, tested it with Malefic Visions and it reduced its damage by 16.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 13:19:44
May 14 2015 13:18 GMT
#120
Link's post was just someone finally venting after getting so much shit.No wonder it is mega salty and completely ignores what he did wrong.

Isn't that common knowledge since when it was introduced champs like gp/teemo/w.e became weaker in lane?
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