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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 13 2015 21:54 GMT
#41
I'm actually rather excited about the attack move on cursor change. It means that attack move is now almost strictly superior to right click on target to attack and regular attack move.

I'm rather surprised they nerfed Annie's auto range without modifying her autoattack animation. It's one of the longer ones and was the traditional tradeoff for having such a long range.

Also, sailor moon Lux!
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
May 13 2015 21:55 GMT
#42
On May 14 2015 06:36 zer0das wrote:
I'm pretty convinced Riot just wanted to ruin ARAM with Mark/Dash at this point.


When I first saw it I thought it was Riot's way of punishing people with ARAM optimized champion pools by dramatically shifting the meta. Now they can either buy the new "best" champions and expand their champion pools or start over from level 1.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 13 2015 21:56 GMT
#43
Not even sure what a buster is.
Kids these days with their lingo.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 13 2015 22:00 GMT
#44
Sup Gahlo and OWB. How is everyone these days?

And Neo, don't worry about it. They don't think it be like it is but it do
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 22:04:01
May 13 2015 22:01 GMT
#45
Shouldn't the title be "RIP Annie"? because sadly I'm afraid this is the end of the Dark Child
Edit:
On May 14 2015 06:41 HazMat wrote:
We moved sites? wtf is this horseshit.

Is Neo still a buster?

edit: KENNEN? change me to Ashe ASAP

you can change it in profile settings under "your profile champion"
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 13 2015 22:01 GMT
#46
On May 14 2015 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Not even sure what a buster is.
Kids these days with their lingo.


Marmy is a buster. Pretty much explains it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 22:11:16
May 13 2015 22:10 GMT
#47
On May 14 2015 07:00 HazMat wrote:
Sup Gahlo and OWB. How is everyone these days?

And Neo, don't worry about it. They don't think it be like it is but it do

Well, despite the site changing, not much else has. Bunch of people from back when you posted still hang out and chat in the Off Topic thread.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 13 2015 22:13 GMT
#48
Oh yeah I was wondering if I was in the right thread. My bad, I'll show myself out.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 13 2015 22:14 GMT
#49
On May 14 2015 07:13 HazMat wrote:
Oh yeah I was wondering if I was in the right thread. My bad, I'll show myself out.


Lol yeah who talks about LoL anymore?

WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
May 13 2015 22:25 GMT
#50
Holy shit, Xin gets a .75 stun on his ult knockback and Trundle's knockback is increased to 225 units. That Zed nerf is pretty friggen huge tbh. He's not a problem in competitive and certainly not in solo q. Other than that, all the other changes look pretty reasonable.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 13 2015 22:34 GMT
#51
Xin isn't too much of a difference. A lot of champion have a stun "hidden" behind another cc.
Quinn's E stuns you as soon as she starts her animation (you can see yourself stop moving right before she starts dashing), Ziggs' E stuns you longer than the knock-back from the satchel, same goes with Jayce's E...

I really dislike it because it isn't documented anywhere and you only learn it when you eat these spells and don't get control of your champion back before a bit of time, which is a killer in tense situations.

Also fucking Magus/Luden's/Zhonya's/Deathcap Amumu, the %HP damage is real, especially with the Abyssal from Ahri. 3k HP, locket shield, Titan's Wrath for around 400-500 additional HP, 150 MR, ~6s life expectancy in fights. ;_;7
He wrecked so hard whenever he got an ult off with Magus+Sorcs, that was almost enough to 100-0 Jinx (if he hit his Q on her he'd prob do it).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 23:10:34
May 13 2015 22:36 GMT
#52
On May 14 2015 05:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
If new Ashe sucks to play I'll be salty.

It's going to be really hard for her win rate to go up as it is

@seuss

From the old thread

Are you seeing 205% in the white section of Frost Shot's tooltip, or are you measuring that in your actual damage dealt?

Also, am I correct in assuming this was at 100% crit chance?


No. I had IE, PD, PD, lucky pick and so had 90% base crit.

My total crit damage was like 300%. 110 + 90 x 1.5 x 1.4

The bonus part was clearly listing about 210% of my raw crit rather than 190%

But it's a pretty useless discussion now that Ashe is changed and crit damage runes are so much worse than crit chance

Numbers are inexact because I don't know the exact amount of crit damage % was in the runes. But I am 100% it was mtiplocative. I checked it specifically by looking at my bonus and the "amount of damage you're getting from crit" part

Edit: numbers also inexact because the page had 41% crit or some such rather than 40, so the quick est was off slightly. Same end difference though, it's 100% not additive.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 13 2015 22:57 GMT
#53
On May 14 2015 07:13 HazMat wrote:
Oh yeah I was wondering if I was in the right thread. My bad, I'll show myself out.



Why aren't you streaming more?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 13 2015 23:03 GMT
#54
On May 14 2015 07:01 Chemiczny84 wrote:
Shouldn't the title be "RIP Annie"? because sadly I'm afraid this is the end of the Dark Child

Good, remove all the lolis, Loli is crime. Please remove, thanks rito.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 13 2015 23:06 GMT
#55
On May 14 2015 08:03 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 07:01 Chemiczny84 wrote:
Shouldn't the title be "RIP Annie"? because sadly I'm afraid this is the end of the Dark Child

Good, remove all the lolis, Loli is crime. Please remove, thanks rito.

Jokes on you, Riot's waiting for the rework to teen-ify her.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 13 2015 23:19 GMT
#56
On May 14 2015 07:01 Chemiczny84 wrote:
Shouldn't the title be "RIP Annie"? because sadly I'm afraid this is the end of the Dark Child

it's a really huge nerf, but I'm pretty sure Annie will still see some play. Her burst and near-zero cast time engages are still big threats.

wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 13 2015 23:28 GMT
#57
On May 14 2015 08:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2015 08:03 Harem wrote:
On May 14 2015 07:01 Chemiczny84 wrote:
Shouldn't the title be "RIP Annie"? because sadly I'm afraid this is the end of the Dark Child

Good, remove all the lolis, Loli is crime. Please remove, thanks rito.

Jokes on you, Riot's waiting for the rework to teen-ify her.

LoL has been out long enough that it would fit lore.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 13 2015 23:40 GMT
#58
It obv hurts Mid Annie more than Support Annie, which is the weird thing. Unless solo q win stats are saying otherwise, seems like an odd way to nerf her since Support Annie sees play while Mid doesn't at all.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 23:43:54
May 13 2015 23:43 GMT
#59
A decent number of changes happen solely because of soloq (hi Riven, die Riven), and there, Mid Annie is pretty good
XDG Mata
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 13 2015 23:47 GMT
#60
On May 14 2015 08:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
It obv hurts Mid Annie more than Support Annie, which is the weird thing. Unless solo q win stats are saying otherwise, seems like an odd way to nerf her since Support Annie sees play while Mid doesn't at all.

It takes a pretty big dump on the Kalista/Annie bot lane. Annie can easily trigger Kali's W because of her absurd range. With the previous changes to Q recovering all the mana and half cd on kill at 625 range, I think she'll be fine after players learn to deal with the accelerated stun cycles.
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