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On April 13 2015 13:47 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 05:49 Slayer91 wrote: no garen is super legit people think im good but im not LOL
actually not many people think im good they are just bemused at the garen carry I concur, after I tried your Garen buildpath he got renamed in Skype to Carry Garry. :D Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 09:00 iCanada wrote: AP tryndamere top is winning me a lot of soloqueue games top right now.
If you haven't check out some Rohammers, he often go AP Trynd and somehow always win lane massively.
Its actually pretty easy to hard snowball on tryn some times. if the RNG gods love you you can kill anyone level 1.
Even if the RNG gods hate you, I find myself winning most lanes. Very few top laners now a days have the trading power, sustain, and lock down required to beat on AP tryn. Basically just like Riven, maybe Gnar but you kind of have to screw up to let Gnar beat on you enough for it to matter. People tunnel visioning on stuff like smite tp shy shy.
Honestly, in most lanes hardest part is not having your teammates dodge.
The lane pressure and sustain is unreal. Mixed with the unlikable escape R makes you pretty obnoxious.
A buddy of mine mains Shaco. Never teamfight, always split push. So terror in solo queue, enemy team can't blink without losing towers. One of us gets chased off, other one takes an inhib, rinse repeat. So toxic.
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On April 14 2015 00:42 RagequitBM wrote: How do you even play Garen. I got mystery gifted Desert Trooper Garen, and have wanted to main him ever since, but I don't even get how he does anything in games. Rundown of how to lane/teamfight? haha
Press Q and run at them.
Are they fighting back? Yes: Press W No: Keep going
Did the Q hit? Yes: Press E No: Wait for Q cd
Are they low? Yes: Press R No: Wait for Q cd
Congrats, you're now a Garen master.
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I think I'll start playing Garen, that in-depth guide was the last thing I needed :p
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On April 14 2015 00:42 RagequitBM wrote: How do you even play Garen. I got mystery gifted Desert Trooper Garen, and have wanted to main him ever since, but I don't even get how he does anything in games. Rundown of how to lane/teamfight? haha The secret is to build 2 offensive items before the tankiness like bruta + infinity then your Q+E combo becomes brutal if you reach to the squishes. The few good garens in the world know how to reach the back lines and this is what separates the good garens from great garens xD
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lol bruta + IE I think you mean LW + sexdrinker Brut is awful
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More like those items are garb and just wait till new BC.
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http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/EUW/Teutonica I'm rank 20 garen and thats without trying lost a bunch of game duoing with marten or with bad internet so my win ratio p shit
i'll take any questions boiz
lw hexdrinker are both legit just remember you are playing a tank champion with good ad ratios and not the other way around
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If you are building damage items one is LW, we did the math, its the best. Brutalizer isn't bad, its every stat you want, hex is good too.
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brutalizer isnt great because you dont really want bc most of the time and cdr is a poor stat on garen because of the way his cds work (q and e both start cd after you finish hitting and not when you finish casting, W and R are long enough that cdr doesn't matter too much) nearly all the time you think you want brutalizer you really want hexdrinker or faster sunfire/randuins
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Brut isn't bad on paper but its a trap item because its 1337 gold that isn't going into tank items or LW. For less than 1k more gold you get LW which is massively better. You basically buy brut to win lane except then you do no damage after lane unless you also get LW, but you cant afford too much gold on offensive items. Hex at least doubles as a defensive item and garen gets extra MR from it due to his W.
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I wish I had an option to split Garen's magic damage at the end of a game between sunfire and his ult. One did the most damage of the team once in a 40 minutes game (granted I was on Tristana so I did the least damage, even less than my duo support Zyra). Garen > Katarina who gets resets x')
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GrandInquisitor
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In what order do you get Sunfire/LW/Hexdrinker/general tank items?
I assume you always prioritize Sunfire (with Hexdrinker first if you need it), followed by another tank item, followed by LW? Or do you get LW even earlier than that?
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generally sunfire is just super fucking good because your DPS is low and you often lack some damage to kill someone from full, but you don't want to get damage because you need to be tanky
I generally get sunfire/giants/hex or sunfire/randuins/hex or sunfire/hax/randuins if they are squishy but with a lot of tanks you go straight sunfire/lw-->hex or randuins
against AP guys you might want to rush boots2/hex and get sunfire after thuogh
On April 14 2015 03:41 Alaric wrote: I wish I had an option to split Garen's magic damage at the end of a game between sunfire and his ult. One did the most damage of the team once in a 40 minutes game (granted I was on Tristana so I did the least damage, even less than my duo support Zyra). Garen > Katarina who gets resets x')
well lots of people get sunfire and dont do the most damage although garen gets garenteed damage when he lands silence usually because of speed+silence combo i get most damage done quite a lot on garen way more is ult than sunfire except in lane phase obviously
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Teut when do you pick Garen for top lane? Is there any lane you won't pick Garen into?
Also I've noticed that you run Flash + Ignite. Is this because you just want to curb-stomp your lane into submission?
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Garen needs the ignite damage to burst people. Also Garen is not a really good tp-ganker.
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On April 14 2015 03:56 Frudgey wrote: Teut when do you pick Garen for top lane? Is there any lane you won't pick Garen into?
Also I've noticed that you run Flash + Ignite. Is this because you just want to curb-stomp your lane into submission?
i pick him into everything although there are some difficult lanes
I run ignite, TP is stronger for lane but TP is useless in teamfights and you rely on your 1-combo burst and ignite adds almost a second ultimate
On April 14 2015 04:05 JimmiC wrote: And running 21-9-0 with garen? I run either 9/21 or 21/9 depends on whats best typically 21/9 but if against teemo or lissandra or something and you want regen and cc reduc well 21 offensive will lose you a lot of creeps so its not worth
I would recommend having a regen quints page around just for those people who will pick teemo or quinn or whatever random harass shit that you one combo later on but you can't do anything to early
the most important thing is to be patient and not try to do too much pre lvl 7 against anyone who picks something just to try to stomp you because if you stay on a decent cs standing you'll easily come back later anyway
garen outscales most people pretty well, by the time you get level 11 you're super strong since passive and ult both level up a lot, same with level 16 its a big spike in regen and ult damage
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okay smite is officially stupid on top laners. Duo'd with a friend who mains top, he invaded on second red, ended up dueling the enemy jungler and won because he smote big lizard for the heal when the other it used chilling smote on him lmao
Best baits na
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