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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 13 2015 03:45 GMT
#141
AP champs scaling from AD (if converted using a "fair" ratio) would be far more broken than AD champs scaling from AP.

AP's have tons of very powerful skills because they are the only way they deal damage, now they have massively damaging autos on top of that. AD champs would be identical but lose their auto.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 13 2015 03:53 GMT
#142
On March 13 2015 12:45 sob3k wrote:
AP champs scaling from AD (if converted using a "fair" ratio) would be far more broken than AD champs scaling from AP.

AP's have tons of very powerful skills because they are the only way they deal damage, now they have massively damaging autos on top of that. AD champs would be identical but lose their auto.

Their itemization gets a ton worse though.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 13 2015 04:21 GMT
#143
Hey does anyone know if the passive from the Funfire and the passive from the jungle item which burns people stack?

I don't think they do but I figured I'd ask anyways.

And if they don't, what should I be grabbing instead of Funfire? I used it all the time while playing Amumu.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 04:27:19
March 13 2015 04:23 GMT
#144
Leblanc with AD ratios would be pretty gross, Ezreal with reverse ratios even more obnoxious than he already is. Never mind what Kog'Maw could do with reverse ratios lol

On March 13 2015 13:21 Frudgey wrote:
Hey does anyone know if the passive from the Funfire and the passive from the jungle item which burns people stack?

I don't think they do but I figured I'd ask anyways.

And if they don't, what should I be grabbing instead of Funfire? I used it all the time while playing Amumu.

They dont stack, both use the Immolate unique passive. You could work towards a Randuins earlier I suppose.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 13 2015 04:25 GMT
#145
On March 13 2015 13:21 Frudgey wrote:
Hey does anyone know if the passive from the Funfire and the passive from the jungle item which burns people stack?

I don't think they do but I figured I'd ask anyways.

And if they don't, what should I be grabbing instead of Funfire? I used it all the time while playing Amumu.

Randuins or FH.
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
March 13 2015 04:44 GMT
#146
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if I have a Cinderhulk and my top laner has a Sunfire, will enemies close to both of us take damage from both of them? I'd be inclined to believe that they would, but the documentation I've checked is unclear.
Trust in Bayes.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 05:15:00
March 13 2015 04:47 GMT
#147
On March 13 2015 13:44 MidnightGladius wrote:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if I have a Cinderhulk and my top laner has a Sunfire, will enemies close to both of us take damage from both of them? I'd be inclined to believe that they would, but the documentation I've checked is unclear.

Yeah, it also works sunfire on your top + sunfire on your jungler. Sunfire isn't a debuff, just damage so there's no reason it wouldn't stack if it's coming from different sources.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
March 13 2015 04:49 GMT
#148
A few pros are saying that the new Trist is still Top 3 ADC. I think she`s butt. Feels like I deal zero damage even at 4 items compared to Jinx/Vayne/Lucian/Cait, and my early game still sucks, and my midgame sucks more.

Old Tristana was my favorite champion, but this new one feels so weak. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 13 2015 04:53 GMT
#149
On March 13 2015 13:44 MidnightGladius wrote:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if I have a Cinderhulk and my top laner has a Sunfire, will enemies close to both of us take damage from both of them? I'd be inclined to believe that they would, but the documentation I've checked is unclear.

Yeah, they just don't stack on the same wearer.
Slayer92
Profile Joined March 2015
29 Posts
March 13 2015 08:06 GMT
#150
What makes people think you're gonna play seriously and not feed when they're flaming you in champ select for a champion pick, I honestly don't get what goes trough the minds of these people.
Oh he picked that champ and already locked in, I better tell him he's [insert swears] for [insert shitty reasons], I bet that'll make him win.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 13 2015 08:12 GMT
#151
So surprise party mummy ult is different if you hit an enemy versus if you do not

At least one
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 10:22:02
March 13 2015 09:12 GMT
#152
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dem rotations haha
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
March 13 2015 10:20 GMT
#153
Why people play AP Ez, but don't play AP Corki or AP Kog? and AP Kog is actually viable and useful in some compositions...
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 13 2015 10:21 GMT
#154
Well, people do play AP Kog every now and then.
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 13 2015 10:24 GMT
#155
On March 13 2015 19:20 M2 wrote:
Why people play AP Ez, but don't play AP Corki or AP Kog? and AP Kog is actually viable and useful in some compositions...

AP corki and Kogs ult doesn't do 650+.9 AP damage?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 13 2015 11:25 GMT
#156
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 13 2015 13:20 GMT
#157
On March 13 2015 17:12 Goumindong wrote:
So surprise party mummy ult is different if you hit an enemy versus if you do not

At least one
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Omg what if there's an invis champ in an unwarded bush? #skinadvantage
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 13:59:48
March 13 2015 13:58 GMT
#158
So here's how I think Bard's ult should be utilized. although I never find any of the fights to be so clear since teamfights are usually a mess it's really impossible to pick targets.

-Use it on enemy ADC or reset champs like Kat could win you the fight.
-Use it on an enemy caster before they unleashed their spell rotation is a win.
-Use it on any caster whose CDs are down, and you are helping him.
-Use it on your own bruiser/assasin whose CDs are down and you allow him a second chance at the enemy squishies or at the very least, zone them out of the fights.
-Use it on your own ADC when he's in trouble is a waste of the ult 90% of the time, unless said ADC is Ezreal who is pretty much a caster and his arcane shift might have a shorter CD than the enemy assassin's gap closer.
-Use it on any allies who got caught out is also a waste since he wouldn't have time to use his spell rotation and the other team would just wait it out and kill him.
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 13 2015 18:19 GMT
#159
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 19:41:47
March 13 2015 19:11 GMT
#160
It works really well with other long range engage as well. I had a pretty on-the-ball rumble player recently and he just layered his ult on the enemy when it expired. And Im not sure that just cc'ing a caster to stop them from dropping stuff is worth. They just come back at full hp and drop it in the teamfight regardless.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
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