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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 13 2015 19:27 GMT
#161
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 13 2015 19:31 GMT
#162
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 20:10:09
March 13 2015 20:09 GMT
#163
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/03/313-pbe-update.html#more

Ziggs slight buffs on mana cost, Irelia slight E dmg nerf, Veigar buffs, Rammus buffs.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 13 2015 20:16 GMT
#164
Fuck it.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 20:29:27
March 13 2015 20:28 GMT
#165
what happens if i zhonya a bard ult?
does the stasis time stack or does zhonya just cancel bard ult?

on the subject of AP kog i feel like it'll be amazing right now with the new AP item
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 13 2015 21:17 GMT
#166
On March 14 2015 05:28 Frolossus wrote:
what happens if i zhonya a bard ult?
does the stasis time stack or does zhonya just cancel bard ult?

on the subject of AP kog i feel like it'll be amazing right now with the new AP item

I'm almost sure that zhonya does cancel bard ult same as spellshield does. Also you can't Bard ult some of already channeling ults, like Vi's.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 21:39:29
March 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#167
On March 14 2015 05:28 Frolossus wrote:
what happens if i zhonya a bard ult?
does the stasis time stack or does zhonya just cancel bard ult?

on the subject of AP kog i feel like it'll be amazing right now with the new AP item


not sure if he can fit it into his build, but he has had a lot of his bad match ups nerfed so he does seem possibly really good at the moment.

actually I'm not sure what the build is anymore? forever the build was RoA, but then it got replaced by Morello's when he came back into the meta last year, but now with the huge mana regen nerfs, does he need RoA back?

in my mind Dcap,Void,Rylai,shoes are unchangable, probably Zhonya although this is kinda flexable, mabye Luden's here. but he probably needs either Tear/RoA/Morello somewhere too.
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 13 2015 21:28 GMT
#168
On March 14 2015 05:09 739 wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/03/313-pbe-update.html#more

Ziggs slight buffs on mana cost, Irelia slight E dmg nerf, Veigar buffs, Rammus buffs.


E max Irelia is really good but OP, I'm not convinced

Mainly why are they still tinkering with Veigar Q, I mean like sure he could use those buffs, but the real problem with Veigar currently is his W is USELESS w/o a reliable stun they need to give his W some kind of Interaction with wall or straight up change the spell.
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ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
March 13 2015 22:03 GMT
#169
I think you guys are right, riot may have over buffed tank junglers with the Gromp buff, cinderhulk business. Lol you can build full tank and do retarded damage on loads of champs from the jungle.

Super fun though!
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 13 2015 22:12 GMT
#170
Bard has achieved permaban status with me. When any other champ starts bitching that we've lost you can just ignore them, but bard can ACTUALLY do as much harm to your team as he can to the enemy, so if he decides to switch sides you're fucked. Free tunnels and lockdown whenever a fight is coming up, not to mention ulting their whole team when I throw my ziggs combo.

Good job rito, didn't see this one coming did you?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 13 2015 22:56 GMT
#171
They know about it. But if someone decides to give your position to the enemy team, where the wards are, the objective timers, and on top of that run at them to suicide and make the game a permanent 4v5, that's just about as harmful.
And I'm fine with that reasoning because they finally realised how much they'd restrain themselves if they stuck to it. Ragequit, intentional feeding, etc. are possible anyway, Bard can make it worse, sure, but you don't need to play him to ruin a game.

The more I play Brand the more I'm depressed by the amount of match-ups liable to PvE from the opponent's part because of his E range. She used her Q having lower cd and mana cost than Pillar to shove pre-6 (also Mantra), bought Chalice on first back, then did nothing but run whenever I walked up, even outside exp range, and spam Q at the wave then me.
Man I just want people to remember LoL is a PvP game. T_T
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 13 2015 23:22 GMT
#172
On March 14 2015 07:56 Alaric wrote:
They know about it. But if someone decides to give your position to the enemy team, where the wards are, the objective timers, and on top of that run at them to suicide and make the game a permanent 4v5, that's just about as harmful.
And I'm fine with that reasoning because they finally realised how much they'd restrain themselves if they stuck to it. Ragequit, intentional feeding, etc. are possible anyway, Bard can make it worse, sure, but you don't need to play him to ruin a game.

The more I play Brand the more I'm depressed by the amount of match-ups liable to PvE from the opponent's part because of his E range. She used her Q having lower cd and mana cost than Pillar to shove pre-6 (also Mantra), bought Chalice on first back, then did nothing but run whenever I walked up, even outside exp range, and spam Q at the wave then me.
Man I just want people to remember LoL is a PvP game. T_T

So you want people to lose to you on purpose?
Freeeeeeedom
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 23:57:51
March 13 2015 23:57 GMT
#173
On March 14 2015 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally


Is Malz still stuck in his channeling animation then? If he can cancel it then you simply remove the damage component of his ult but not his suppression while Malz becomes free to damage other people.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 13 2015 23:59 GMT
#174
On March 14 2015 08:57 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally


Is Malz still stuck in his channeling animation then? If he can cancel it then you simply remove the damage component of his ult but not his suppression while Malz becomes free to damage other people.

Does Mikael's actually remove suppression? It doesn't say it does.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
March 13 2015 23:59 GMT
#175
On March 14 2015 05:28 Frolossus wrote:
what happens if i zhonya a bard ult?
does the stasis time stack or does zhonya just cancel bard ult?

on the subject of AP kog i feel like it'll be amazing right now with the new AP item

Why would you Zhonya when you are already immune?
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
March 14 2015 00:18 GMT
#176
On March 14 2015 08:59 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 08:57 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally


Is Malz still stuck in his channeling animation then? If he can cancel it then you simply remove the damage component of his ult but not his suppression while Malz becomes free to damage other people.

Does Mikael's actually remove suppression? It doesn't say it does.


No only Qss/scimitar
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 14 2015 00:21 GMT
#177
On March 14 2015 08:57 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally


Is Malz still stuck in his channeling animation then? If he can cancel it then you simply remove the damage component of his ult but not his suppression while Malz becomes free to damage other people.


malz is never technically stuck in his channeling animation, you can cancel ult whenever you want just by moving
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
March 14 2015 01:17 GMT
#178
On March 14 2015 05:28 Frolossus wrote:
what happens if i zhonya a bard ult?
does the stasis time stack or does zhonya just cancel bard ult?

on the subject of AP kog i feel like it'll be amazing right now with the new AP item


When you Zhonyas Bard ult you are technically unaffected by it - they dont stack. So you will come out of stasis before everyone around you does.

See:



Additional Information:

Tempered Fate has no effect on untargetable towers (i.e. those protected by another tower or the inhibitors), or any untargetable unit for that matter.


(its under his ult)
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 14 2015 01:31 GMT
#179
On March 14 2015 09:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 08:57 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally


Is Malz still stuck in his channeling animation then? If he can cancel it then you simply remove the damage component of his ult but not his suppression while Malz becomes free to damage other people.


malz is never technically stuck in his channeling animation, you can cancel ult whenever you want just by moving

Can confirm. I prematurely cancel Malz ult at least once a week.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 14 2015 02:07 GMT
#180
On March 14 2015 10:31 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 09:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 08:57 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Goumindong wrote:
It's also strong to counter enemy dots like rumble/fids ult. you can stasis your team to ignore the damage like a 5 man zhonya


uh oh, permaban when i'm playing malz in that case


Yes indeed. He would negate the entirety of your ult by stasising his ally


Is Malz still stuck in his channeling animation then? If he can cancel it then you simply remove the damage component of his ult but not his suppression while Malz becomes free to damage other people.


malz is never technically stuck in his channeling animation, you can cancel ult whenever you want just by moving

Can confirm. I prematurely cancel Malz ult at least once a week.


i think they added a buffer where you can't accidentally cancel it in the first 0.5s or something
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
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