EPT[Patch 4.21] Rek'Sai General Discussion - Page 133
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Goumindong
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wei2coolman
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On January 12 2015 05:03 AsnSensation wrote: I've seen Sneaky and Doublelift spam kalista almost exclusively over the last 2 days which makes me think they are doing well with them in scrims. Kalista hype for lcs? Her first appearance in ogn was rather disappointing ;O Also her E can burst Baron at 2k hp, doubling lvl 18 smite dmg which is ridiculous, needs to be fixed. DL already has 2 massive highlight clips with kalista. So I'm guessing she's pretty stronk right now. Will be interesting to see the risk/reward ratio on how much ADC's value being able to cancel auto attacks. | ||
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Sufficiency
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Slusher
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cLutZ
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AsnSensation
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On January 12 2015 05:33 Slusher wrote: not sure if trolling but Sneaky has been doing this weird early hurricane build on her. doublelift too, they're also maxing E and with hurrican it spreads the e passive to both champions and minions really fast which almost guarantees the instant cooldown from killing a unit. | ||
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Gahlo
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On January 12 2015 01:19 Slusher wrote: as an aside (first world problems inc) I hope that Riot eventually adds a "random" skin option I hate when I obsolete my old skins and really have no reason to choose them anymore. I'm only really good with flex picks were I designate different skins to different roles (yes I actually do this) Since the client checks which one you use last, I just cycle through them in those cases. On January 12 2015 01:33 NeoIllusions wrote: This will be something I propose to the rest of staff. There should obv be some level of merit when it comes to posting strategy. I know in the past, specifically when I asked you, if I could write a guide thread for a champion that was left seriously outdated you okayed it and the things just went like normal when I posted the new thread. In the end it will come down to a) does the OP know what they're talking about and b) are they willing to consider other viewpoints and curate the thread appropriately. On January 12 2015 05:17 wei2coolman wrote: DL already has 2 massive highlight clips with kalista. So I'm guessing she's pretty stronk right now. Will be interesting to see the risk/reward ratio on how much ADC's value being able to cancel auto attacks. To blindly parrot Montecristo, Kalista's inability to cancel/animation cancel autos is a champion specific skill that nobody ever had a need to develop so understanding how to play her well at a competitive level is going to take some time. On top of that, this also takes into account adjusting to AS slows when playing her too. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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On January 12 2015 05:33 Slusher wrote: not sure if trolling but Sneaky has been doing this weird early hurricane build on her. Hurricane applies rend on all the split autos which is nice. | ||
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JimmiC
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Alaric
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After they changed the damage formula on it though I wasn't so sure, since it reduced it a bunch (well not so much if you don't max it, but still). Ya but Cheep we don't see Twitch doing the same for his poison for example. The lack of width on Hurricane's secondary bolts make it hard to use it well. I guess it's pretty good at giving her waveclear though, which she lacks otherwise. | ||
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nafta
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Slusher
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Gahlo
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On January 12 2015 06:23 Slusher wrote: people thought it was going to be amazing on Twitch, Varus and Kog for similar reasons but it didn't pan out, it might be the reset, but I think it's more the reset + getting mobility from attack speed. The issues with those champions and Hurricane: Twitch: 0 mobility assistance. Ult range can outrange Hurricane passive. Varus: 0 mobility assistance, utility of his spells outweighs the "stack up everybody and pop em all in AOE" fantasy. Kog: Bio-Arcane Barrage can outrange Hurricane. What really kills the item is that it doesn't adjust it's range to the champion. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
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On January 12 2015 06:08 Alaric wrote: I thought about maxing E first when I saw her kit, since she's got a total AD ratio on her Q anyway, and it's easier to trade, disengage then auto a minion and E to damage the enemy champion without putting it on cd, so you're ready to trade again, than to mark a minion a bunch then Q him through to move the stacks to a champion behind. After they changed the damage formula on it though I wasn't so sure, since it reduced it a bunch (well not so much if you don't max it, but still). Ya but Cheep we don't see Twitch doing the same for his poison for example. The lack of width on Hurricane's secondary bolts make it hard to use it well. I guess it's pretty good at giving her waveclear though, which she lacks otherwise. Because Twitch has way better items to synergise with kit and has completely different playstyle from what hurricane supposed to do. Inb4 Kalista transitions to sololane with hurricane and double lifesteal builds. On January 12 2015 06:30 Gahlo wrote: The issues with those champions and Hurricane: Twitch: 0 mobility assistance. Ult range can outrange Hurricane passive. Varus: 0 mobility assistance, utility of his spells outweighs the "stack up everybody and pop em all in AOE" fantasy. Kog: Bio-Arcane Barrage can outrange Hurricane. What really kills the item is that it doesn't adjust it's range to the champion. Varus isn't in hurricane range usually as well, unless you get some hilarious 5-man ult. | ||
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Alaric
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I guess people wanted to make Q for the poke on Kalista, and it's true that it gains 60 base damage per level. My idea was that maxing Rend you can very easily outdamage Q (or even 2 Qs), and if you're good enough about positioning and choosing when to fight to disengage then auto a minion and execute it (made easier as you level Rend since it increases the damage for a single stack), you're not constrained by its cooldown anymore. That removes a constraint on your ability to engage on your terms, and since her passive makes it easy to get somewhat in range, I think it makes her super flexible. No idea how the damage formula change weakens her (or not) during the laning stage though. | ||
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