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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 12 2015 01:57 Scip wrote: I've never seen anyone who had both of those properties I'd be more willing to believe unicorns exist When I necro the Vi guide to ask for advice and detailed explanations behind the currently popular/good (eg. I still won't advocate triforce rush as the main viable build in the OP) builds or runes/masteries setups, you better show up then.  | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On January 12 2015 01:55 TheYango wrote: My personal view is that once the discussion moves past the first 5-ish pages, nobody looks at the guide in the OP that seriously anymore anyway. Practically speaking, it's probably best to just have a 1-thread-per-champ for the purposes of discussion, with an OP who's willing to go back and change the OP based on discussion. The writer doesn't have to necessarily be good, but they have to be willing to edit their OP extensively, and be willing to listen when someone who clearly knows better suggests change. Guides each getting their own thread leads to a lot of subforum clutter, and TL's format isn't really built to handle a lot of shit guides and waiting for them all to drift off the front page because thread order isn't popularity-based. I think putting guides for champions into the OP is just an unmaintainable mess. IMHO, the system works best if the guides are on a public wiki that is linked in the OP, and the thread then becomes the discussion board for that champion instead. Then anyone can maintain the wiki and people can ask questions and discuss the finer points in the thread. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On January 12 2015 02:08 Takkara wrote: I think putting guides for champions into the OP is just an unmaintainable mess. IMHO, the system works best if the guides are on a public wiki that is linked in the OP, and the thread then becomes the discussion board for that champion instead. Then anyone can maintain the wiki and people can ask questions and discuss the finer points in the thread. Something like this is probably the most reasonable solution. Just keep the OP clear with only the most basic information about the champion, if the OP feels like writing a guide just write in in the 2nd post. That way we don't have to deal with the ugliness of super outdated OP guides and still provide a thread for discussion. Maybe link the guides posted in the thread in the OP provided the guides are recent, but that'd require maintenance on the part of OP I'm not sure we can expect. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 12 2015 02:08 Takkara wrote: I think putting guides for champions into the OP is just an unmaintainable mess. IMHO, the system works best if the guides are on a public wiki that is linked in the OP, and the thread then becomes the discussion board for that champion instead. Then anyone can maintain the wiki and people can ask questions and discuss the finer points in the thread. I just cringed super hard there at all the potential drama. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Guide in the second post or spoilered in the OP is probably fine. Though if the guide is in the thread, I would still lean toward it being a post summarizing the salient points from the discussion rather than purely the OP's own work. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the Q speed nerf hit him in the taric zone, he needs levels so bad now, he might be a reasonable top now that you can buy catalyst on tanks, but not while Gnar and Liss are fotm | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On January 12 2015 02:21 TheYango wrote: Regardless, TL's format isn't really sensible for maintaining a large number of guides, and the threads in the subforum should primarily be aimed at discussion, and not guide presentation. One-thread-per-hero already leads to enough threads as to be uncomfortable to manage. Guide in the second post or spoilered in the OP is probably fine. Though if the guide is in the thread, I would still lean toward it being a post summarizing the salient points from the discussion rather than purely the OP's own work. I have no idea what a post summarizing the salient points from discussions looks like so I'm not sure I can call that unfeasable just yet I don't think it's the worst idea to have some guides by single players, it's just the player needs to be pretty good and the guide needs to be very detailed to be worth a damn | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On January 12 2015 02:30 Scip wrote: I have no idea what a post summarizing the salient points from discussions looks like so I'm not sure I can call that unfeasable just yet I don't think it's the worst idea to have some guides by single players, it's just the player needs to be pretty good and the guide needs to be very detailed to be worth a damn It's also the same problem all over again if a single person decides which points from discussion should be summarized. You need a certain extent of knowledge about a champion to be able to pick out the valid points in discussion from the invalid ones. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
I know some of them are super outdated(hi Anivia I still love you <3). but it's probably the best way to link stuff for reference. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
AHGL match between Blackberry and Boeing! Tune in to watch fulltime employees play! | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Also her E can burst Baron at 2k hp, doubling lvl 18 smite dmg which is ridiculous, needs to be fixed. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Just a random D1/2 player crushing noobs or was I beaten by someone interesting? | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On January 12 2015 05:05 Goumindong wrote: Anyone know who C9 Suyui is? Just got wrecked by him in a plat 3 game[well, i should say that my mid got wrecked by him, and then this snowballed all the other lanes, our bot lane played about as well as we could expect) (he being 15/0 on what looks to be a fresh account). It appears there once was a crs suyui who went 50/10 to diamond 2 before being abandoned. Just a random D1/2 player crushing noobs or was I beaten by someone interesting? Is that Yusui's smurf or would that be too obvious? | ||
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