EPTDon't have Malz.
Gg.
e. Remember earlier this year when I called AD's getting Scrying Orb in competitive to make up for holes in vision control and I got shit for it? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
Don't have Malz. Gg. e. Remember earlier this year when I called AD's getting Scrying Orb in competitive to make up for holes in vision control and I got shit for it? Pepperidge Farm remembers. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
is it just zed in general? i haven't gotten to play him mid a whole lot yet | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 09 2014 12:51 gtrsrs wrote: i think zed jungle is really good right now is it just zed in general? i haven't gotten to play him mid a whole lot yet I remember when Insec was screwing around with it a while back, the knock on it was that it was item dependent. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/12/patch-421-server-maintenance-announced.html Patch Wednesday? | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
will report back how it goes so it turns out that you need a really strong initiator and tank in your top lane for it to work out :/ | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 09 2014 12:51 gtrsrs wrote: i think zed jungle is really good right now is it just zed in general? i haven't gotten to play him mid a whole lot yet had d1 friend play zed top/mid/jungle on his smurf all the way til level 30, and his normal queue was filled with diamond+ players during leveling with 15-20minute queues, so I think you can play it up to a pretty high level in solo queue without any issues. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On December 09 2014 15:25 wei2coolman wrote: had d1 friend play zed top/mid/jungle on his smurf all the way til level 30, and his normal queue was filled with diamond+ players during leveling with 15-20minute queues, so I think you can play it up to a pretty high level in solo queue without any issues. I bet he can reach diamond division even with zed support/adc and this goes for every champ imo. Game is so complex that it provides too many tools for higher elo players to dominate, outside of a particular champ/role . Its D1 and above where the skill gap between the players goes low enough for an assessment if a unorthodox pick can actually work or not :-) | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 09 2014 17:18 M2 wrote: I bet he can reach diamond division even with zed support/adc and this goes for every champ imo. Game is so complex that it provides too many tools for higher elo players to dominate, outside of a particular champ/role . Its D1 and above where the skill gap between the players goes low enough for an assessment if a unorthodox pick can actually work or not :-) The funny thing is, he doesn't even have Zed on his main. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On December 09 2014 17:18 M2 wrote: I bet he can reach diamond division even with zed support/adc and this goes for every champ imo. Game is so complex that it provides too many tools for higher elo players to dominate, outside of a particular champ/role . Its D1 and above where the skill gap between the players goes low enough for an assessment if a unorthodox pick can actually work or not :-) i would say it doesn't even matter what people are playing at the top of the solo queue ladder because many players main whatever character they want or are famous for. solo queue doesn't really have the coordination to completely invalidate some of the champion/role combinations that people choose to play | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 09 2014 13:55 Frolossus wrote: oddly enough i just queued into a ranked game w/ a jungle zed on my team will report back how it goes so it turns out that you need a really strong initiator and tank in your top lane for it to work out :/ Leona* On December 09 2014 17:35 Slusher wrote: the true test of how far below your "natural" elo you are is if you can build an IE on a non-optimal i.e. hero without throwing. It's not optimal on Talon, but you still build it everytime because BT sucks (and you have Hydra). | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5232 Posts
On December 09 2014 18:00 Alaric wrote: Leona* It's not optimal on Talon, but you still build it everytime because BT sucks (and you have Hydra). I recently won a game with adc Annie (IE first ofcourse), with my AP ezreal support. Won lane, wont game. After my first blood and second kill ofcourse Ezreal had to feed to kill back, while he was completely alone in the lane, just to make the lane harder, but in the end it really doesn't matter what you play. You only have to play it well enough. Also, whenever I watch some challenger streams, be it qtpie or nightblue, I see a whole lot of trollpicks, either barely working/not working or straight up destroying a lane simply because the knowledge to win the matchup just isn't there or someone got a role they just don't play and don't know how to platy it out. Knowledge is a very big factor in this game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On December 09 2014 08:26 Alaric wrote: It's not about having mana issues, it's about a bunch of champions' win condition being "avoid trades/damage as much as possible to survive until Pantheon is oom, then take control of the lane". There's a bunch where he's pressured to get an advantage before the first back (and TP makes it even worse) and so either he goes flask and tries to harass down people, or dblade and balls to the wall before their pots start can outlast his mana pool. Flask and 2 mana pots is more then enough to always throw spears never not throw spears. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On December 09 2014 18:19 Alaric wrote: Why do you think TOO picks Ziggs when he has to mid? No knowledge required, stand back, spam Q, you'll deal damage eventually and it's not like he has mana costs. Its a nice theory, but his every skill is a skillshot, and eventually you're gonna have to land a couple of those in teamfights. No worse feeling than losing a teamfight or even a 1vs1 because you just kept missing q. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On December 09 2014 21:16 Osmoses wrote: Its a nice theory, but his every skill is a skillshot, and eventually you're gonna have to land a couple of those in teamfights. No worse feeling than losing a teamfight or even a 1vs1 because you just kept missing q. Considering by level 9 with Morellonomicon and 5% CDR from masteries that the cd on his Q is 3 seconds... He's also playing in an elo that understand that his poke leads to free fights and won't put him in a position where he needs to land everything. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 09 2014 17:35 Slusher wrote: the true test of how far below your "natural" elo you are is if you can build an IE on a non-optimal i.e. hero without throwing. That awkward moment when the support finished her Triforce/IE/LW combo before the friendly ADC. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On December 09 2014 21:39 Sponkz wrote: That awkward moment when the support finished her Triforce/IE/LW combo before the friendly ADC. my muramana/IE blitz knows that feel | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2or43s/so_riot_has_told_me_in_a_support_ticket_to_post/ | ||
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