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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 14 2014 06:52 GMT
#1021
Might as well pop in with my art critique:

Rumble looks good (shadows aside), now give him a better in game model.
Shaco portrait is good, but the splash is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too dark.
Ahri is about 75 times worse. She looks ugly now and not seductive at all.
Blitzcrank is a raging success and turns me on more than the Ahri one.
Ezreal is a sidegrade because I can't work out what he is meant to be doing, riding an invisible surfboard? Silver Surfer Ezreal incoming?
Janna's face was massacred.
Kayle splash is acceptable, but the portrait is dog meat.
Wukong looks like something from the 1968 version of planet of the apes.
Shen is good, but I'm getting tired of this perpetual midnight in Runeterra.
Talon looks like he's aged and doesn't look threatening, even with him about to kill someone. Then again, it's hard to take a blue jumpsuited assassin seriously.
Tristana is an improvement, but all yordles still mean nothing to me.
Veigar is a success, but that wasn't hard considering his old one.
Ditto for Zilean.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 14 2014 07:15 GMT
#1022
only one i really like is zilean, also i agree new lee splash art makes me so angry i dont even want to play him anymore
Xayoz
Profile Joined December 2010
Estonia373 Posts
October 14 2014 07:44 GMT
#1023
Love the new art-style & splashes - especially Tristana, Shen & Ahri - huge improvements.
Whenever you correct someone's grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 14 2014 07:51 GMT
#1024
I've no issues with any of these new splashes but wukong. He looks like the srtist is inexperienced, completely stationary and uncanny-valley ish.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 08:16:51
October 14 2014 08:13 GMT
#1025
Thank you Riot for ruining Janna's splash. Thank you. Not that I expected any better from the organization which let a child's drawing of Cassiopeia go live. Give her hairy legs and abeer belly too, please. What a disgrace. I'm mad, but at least Shen and Cho are 10/10, and there are other goodies as well. Rip wukong though.

edit: oh yeah, Tristana is 11/10, it's an amazing splash. Not only the quality of the drawing (srsly, it looks so... vivid? dunno the word), but it looks so upbeat, giving her an actual personality, other than a "little girl holding a cannon, move on". I'm in love with it.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
October 14 2014 08:33 GMT
#1026
Can someone please post a link to the new splash art?
sorry for dem one liners
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 14 2014 08:34 GMT
#1027
On October 14 2014 17:13 Volband wrote:
Thank you Riot for ruining Janna's splash. Thank you. Not that I expected any better from the organization which let a child's drawing of Cassiopeia go live. Give her hairy legs and abeer belly too, please. What a disgrace. I'm mad, but at least Shen and Cho are 10/10, and there are other goodies as well. Rip wukong though.

edit: oh yeah, Tristana is 11/10, it's an amazing splash. Not only the quality of the drawing (srsly, it looks so... vivid? dunno the word), but it looks so upbeat, giving her an actual personality, other than a "little girl holding a cannon, move on". I'm in love with it.


Right? She's like "Megglings Yordles love Cannons!" It's great. The one splash turned gave her so much more lively.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 14 2014 08:38 GMT
#1028
On October 14 2014 17:33 NukeD wrote:
Can someone please post a link to the new splash art?

Push the "back one page" button.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
October 14 2014 08:50 GMT
#1029
Ahri / Janna were massacred (esp Janna who had a great splash) the rest is good.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11960 Posts
October 14 2014 08:51 GMT
#1030
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
October 14 2014 08:53 GMT
#1031
On October 14 2014 17:38 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:33 NukeD wrote:
Can someone please post a link to the new splash art?

Push the "back one page" button.

Oh Im stupid. Thank you.

I like every new splash except ahri and tristana. Kayle looks especially awesome.
sorry for dem one liners
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 09:02:34
October 14 2014 09:01 GMT
#1032
On October 14 2014 12:54 Goragoth wrote:
Old Trist art is horrible. The new splash could have been better but it's still a massive upgrade. Also, they are clearly restricted in what perspectives to use because they use cropped versions for the in game icons and they have to be readable.

You mean, Orianna-readable?

On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.

You know why I like old Shen better than new Shen?
New Shen is black background, black and purple guy doing a stationary pose, weird purple effect that you don't know what it implies.

I mean, as a League player who know the champion and his kit, sure, I can be "oh it's Shen channeling his ult" but otherwise? It's just weird and doesn't say anything and worst of all it's dark so you've got to wonder why they even bothered putting a background. Also glowy eyes.
I dunno, if you want to showcase his ult show him shielding someone, or parrying a hit right after arriving with another dude from the Kinkou (not Akali or Kennen, just your equivalent of the Foot clan goon) vulnerable on the floor. From there you work out a pose and stuff to put some lighting on Shen himself, and that'll let you crop it to a portrait without being too muddy.
There, you've got brighter colours, a more readable/less lame splash, and you can even present it to new players and they'll get that Shen is a ninja (an important one, not like the fodder dude on the floor) and that he protects people.
With a not-dumb/dark portrait.

Isn't that what readability is?

Cho's splash is fine quality-wise, but his portrait is ass because it's all dull patel colours, so you've got some blur of pale red and pale blue.
Tristana is wonky but I'm fine with it because it's kinda troll-ey plus it's in line with her CO (cheerful + "look at all the pretty explosions!").
Janna is... wtf? It's like they decided to take what's wrong with models/feminine depiction, but only removed the sexiness. Her shoulder/neck are skinny as heck, you gotta wonder how she doesn't fall over. Plus it's not like the previous one was bad, resolution-wise.
Wukong is better resolution but straight-up worse in terms of colour scheme, facial expression and generally presenting Wukong, I'd say. Only thing it has on the old one is that Wukong's face isn't as "srsface" as the old.
Talon has better resoluton. That's all. His face is still non-descript, the posture says "movement" but it's not quick dynamic, and the way they made his blade-cloak just creates visual clutter as you wonder "wtf is that thing".

Ahri looks like a possessed girl rather than a seducive woman so, uh... also considering the Ionian heritage and where the champ draws its inspiration from (Gumiho/Kitsune/etc.), keeping (or accentuating) Asian features would be better.
Although in their New Dawn cinematic she already looked more like a feral (and helpless) girl than an scheming/manipulative adult, and they're apparently going in that direction. And I'd never even noticed the boobstrap before, till all the comments about it made me look hard at the splash.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 14 2014 09:10 GMT
#1033
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 14 2014 09:21 GMT
#1034
On October 14 2014 18:01 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:54 Goragoth wrote:
Old Trist art is horrible. The new splash could have been better but it's still a massive upgrade. Also, they are clearly restricted in what perspectives to use because they use cropped versions for the in game icons and they have to be readable.

You mean, Orianna-readable?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.

You know why I like old Shen better than new Shen?
New Shen is black background, black and purple guy doing a stationary pose, weird purple effect that you don't know what it implies.

I mean, as a League player who know the champion and his kit, sure, I can be "oh it's Shen channeling his ult" but otherwise? It's just weird and doesn't say anything and worst of all it's dark so you've got to wonder why they even bothered putting a background. Also glowy eyes.
I dunno, if you want to showcase his ult show him shielding someone, or parrying a hit right after arriving with another dude from the Kinkou (not Akali or Kennen, just your equivalent of the Foot clan goon) vulnerable on the floor. From there you work out a pose and stuff to put some lighting on Shen himself, and that'll let you crop it to a portrait without being too muddy.
There, you've got brighter colours, a more readable/less lame splash, and you can even present it to new players and they'll get that Shen is a ninja (an important one, not like the fodder dude on the floor) and that he protects people.
With a not-dumb/dark portrait.

Isn't that what readability is?


Shen's current splash is him standing there holding a sword with no background and it's darker than his new one and his fist is bigger than his head, so...?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 14 2014 09:31 GMT
#1035
At least they don't play pretend with the background, and the tones are alot lighter around his body and face, which is why his portrait is more readable too. It's not just "black-ey, black and dark purple". I didn't say his previous splash was gorgeous, just that this one's worse in my book, especially for all the effort they put into it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 14 2014 09:37 GMT
#1036
On October 14 2014 18:01 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:54 Goragoth wrote:
Old Trist art is horrible. The new splash could have been better but it's still a massive upgrade. Also, they are clearly restricted in what perspectives to use because they use cropped versions for the in game icons and they have to be readable.

You mean, Orianna-readable?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.

You know why I like old Shen better than new Shen?
New Shen is black background, black and purple guy doing a stationary pose, weird purple effect that you don't know what it implies.

I mean, as a League player who know the champion and his kit, sure, I can be "oh it's Shen channeling his ult" but otherwise? It's just weird and doesn't say anything and worst of all it's dark so you've got to wonder why they even bothered putting a background. Also glowy eyes.
I dunno, if you want to showcase his ult show him shielding someone, or parrying a hit right after arriving with another dude from the Kinkou (not Akali or Kennen, just your equivalent of the Foot clan goon) vulnerable on the floor. From there you work out a pose and stuff to put some lighting on Shen himself, and that'll let you crop it to a portrait without being too muddy.
There, you've got brighter colours, a more readable/less lame splash, and you can even present it to new players and they'll get that Shen is a ninja (an important one, not like the fodder dude on the floor) and that he protects people.
With a not-dumb/dark portrait.

Isn't that what readability is?

All right, that's very nitpicky. First of all, you should not make an arguement which is basically "new players to lol won't understand what's happening". That's a total non-issue, and after one game playing with shen, it should be apparent, that the pose he makes is almost identical to when he ults in game, and with the coming vu (don't know when it is, but it will surely come) he will probably ult in that posture.

While it might be too dark, overall quality of the splash is just great. It's not cartoony, it's not hasty, it's very well-drawn. Once again, look at Cassiopeia... that shit looks like a sketch compared to this one. Also, Shen looks like a freakin' ninja doing ninja business. It's cheesy, but isn't the whole concept of Shen basically that? Your regular ninja/mortal combat ninja guy. There's not much depth in it, though if they expand the lore, the shen vs zed (or "good ninjas vs bad ninjas" might turn out to be interesting). The only thing I agree with that the splash does not imply whether Shen is a good guy or not. Sure, zed's picture is more colorful, yet one glance at it and you know he's about to steal your lunch money, while Shen's posture is very calm, albeit the spooky background and eyes might confuse you.

Anyway, be glad it's not shitty Lee Sin or Cass quality.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 14 2014 09:38 GMT
#1037
On October 14 2014 17:51 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.

Neither Ahri seems like the liver eating type to me
Maybe the old Cassiopea she's kinda inviting you with the outstretched hand and she kinda smiling but you can't tell whether it's because she thinks you're a tasty treat or because you're hot (perhaps literally, #coldbloodedproblems). I'd totally go an cuddle and hope she just wants the warmth even though those sharp claws look really scary but yeah maybe she'd totally eat your liver.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 14 2014 09:47 GMT
#1038
lorewise, ahri is much more dangerous to sleep with than old cass. old cass didn't really kill many people, she was just super hot and known for being so, ahri kills people for fun.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 14 2014 09:48 GMT
#1039
On October 14 2014 18:38 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:51 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.

Neither Ahri seems like the liver eating type to me
Maybe the old Cassiopea she's kinda inviting you with the outstretched hand and she kinda smiling but you can't tell whether it's because she thinks you're a tasty treat or because you're hot (perhaps literally, #coldbloodedproblems). I'd totally go an cuddle and hope she just wants the warmth even though those sharp claws look really scary but yeah maybe she'd totally eat your liver.

Dunno, I saw way too many red flags on old cass art to not want to get closer to her. She seems like a terrible ex to have as well.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 09:54:39
October 14 2014 09:53 GMT
#1040
The thing I'm actually STILL not over is, because I can't really look at this new splass (hue, first typo but I guess I'd stick with it) art stuff at work (slow computer etc), is that they made Malphite splash look SO COOL, but his in game character still looks stupid as HELL. Why WHY would you do that when the change doesn't translate in game at all.
Hope they make Cho' Gath more viscious in game aswell. His new splash is really, really cool too.
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