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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
October 14 2014 10:00 GMT
#1041
On October 14 2014 18:38 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 17:51 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.

Neither Ahri seems like the liver eating type to me
Maybe the old Cassiopea she's kinda inviting you with the outstretched hand and she kinda smiling but you can't tell whether it's because she thinks you're a tasty treat or because you're hot (perhaps literally, #coldbloodedproblems). I'd totally go an cuddle and hope she just wants the warmth even though those sharp claws look really scary but yeah maybe she'd totally eat your liver.


Well of course she doesn't look like the liver eating type. If you are the liver eating type of girl, you want to make very sure not to look like you eat peoples livers, otherwise you get less livers to eat because people are gonna stay away from you. Who wants to get his liver eaten, after all. So logically, the ones that look the least like they are going to eat your livers are most likely to eat your liver. Always keep that in mind.

Cass, on the other hand, is a snake. She doesn't even have the teeth necessary to selectively eat your liver. She is either gonna swallow you completely, or not at all. But i guess if she eats you completely, that also means that she eats your liver.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 14 2014 10:02 GMT
#1042
On October 14 2014 18:53 Uldridge wrote:
The thing I'm actually STILL not over is, because I can't really look at this new splass (hue, first typo but I guess I'd stick with it) art stuff at work (slow computer etc), is that they made Malphite splash look SO COOL, but his in game character still looks stupid as HELL. Why WHY would you do that when the change doesn't translate in game at all.
Hope they make Cho' Gath more viscious in game aswell. His new splash is really, really cool too.

The answer is easy: because this way the art team is not limited by the visual upgrade teams progress. "Hey guys, look, I finished my awesome Malphite splash!! - Sorry dude, Malp vu gonna be 8 months from now, so yeah."
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 14 2014 10:02 GMT
#1043
On October 14 2014 18:53 Uldridge wrote:
The thing I'm actually STILL not over is, because I can't really look at this new splass (hue, first typo but I guess I'd stick with it) art stuff at work (slow computer etc), is that they made Malphite splash look SO COOL, but his in game character still looks stupid as HELL. Why WHY would you do that when the change doesn't translate in game at all.
Hope they make Cho' Gath more viscious in game aswell. His new splash is really, really cool too.


Because making a new splash is a lot easier than making a new in game model.
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AetherZucchini
Profile Joined July 2014
Switzerland24 Posts
October 14 2014 11:19 GMT
#1044
On October 14 2014 18:53 Uldridge wrote:
The thing I'm actually STILL not over is, because I can't really look at this new splass (hue, first typo but I guess I'd stick with it) art stuff at work (slow computer etc), is that they made Malphite splash look SO COOL, but his in game character still looks stupid as HELL. Why WHY would you do that when the change doesn't translate in game at all.
Hope they make Cho' Gath more viscious in game aswell. His new splash is really, really cool too.


That's indeed a big issue, especially when there is a big change in the general look of the character. For most of the recent splashes it's not that problematic, but look at Tristana's for example : the ingame model corresponds with her old splash really well, and looks nothing like the new one. So even though the new splash is nice, in the end it's gonna feel cheap and lame to play with such a bad in-game model.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 11:35:39
October 14 2014 11:35 GMT
#1045
On October 14 2014 19:00 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 18:38 Scip wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:51 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.

Neither Ahri seems like the liver eating type to me
Maybe the old Cassiopea she's kinda inviting you with the outstretched hand and she kinda smiling but you can't tell whether it's because she thinks you're a tasty treat or because you're hot (perhaps literally, #coldbloodedproblems). I'd totally go an cuddle and hope she just wants the warmth even though those sharp claws look really scary but yeah maybe she'd totally eat your liver.


Well of course she doesn't look like the liver eating type. If you are the liver eating type of girl, you want to make very sure not to look like you eat peoples livers, otherwise you get less livers to eat because people are gonna stay away from you. Who wants to get his liver eaten, after all. So logically, the ones that look the least like they are going to eat your livers are most likely to eat your liver. Always keep that in mind.

Cass, on the other hand, is a snake. She doesn't even have the teeth necessary to selectively eat your liver. She is either gonna swallow you completely, or not at all. But i guess if she eats you completely, that also means that she eats your liver.

She could rip out the liver with her sharp sharp claws :3
Also I don't believe this story about Ahri killing men for fun I mean I read a lot of stories about kitsune taking the life force of men and it was a lot less murdery than what you're describing
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
October 14 2014 11:57 GMT
#1046
On October 14 2014 18:01 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:54 Goragoth wrote:
Old Trist art is horrible. The new splash could have been better but it's still a massive upgrade. Also, they are clearly restricted in what perspectives to use because they use cropped versions for the in game icons and they have to be readable.

You mean, Orianna-readable?

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:06 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand how people can hate any of the new splash art. It is across the board higher resolution, more detailed, with more dynamic poses. It's awesome, and I'm glad to see more of the terrible/mediocre old art go. It's like people have some sort of emotional attachment to the old art or something, I don't get it at all.

You know why I like old Shen better than new Shen?
New Shen is black background, black and purple guy doing a stationary pose, weird purple effect that you don't know what it implies.

I mean, as a League player who know the champion and his kit, sure, I can be "oh it's Shen channeling his ult" but otherwise? It's just weird and doesn't say anything and worst of all it's dark so you've got to wonder why they even bothered putting a background. Also glowy eyes.
I dunno, if you want to showcase his ult show him shielding someone, or parrying a hit right after arriving with another dude from the Kinkou (not Akali or Kennen, just your equivalent of the Foot clan goon) vulnerable on the floor. From there you work out a pose and stuff to put some lighting on Shen himself, and that'll let you crop it to a portrait without being too muddy.
There, you've got brighter colours, a more readable/less lame splash, and you can even present it to new players and they'll get that Shen is a ninja (an important one, not like the fodder dude on the floor) and that he protects people.
With a not-dumb/dark portrait.

What are you talking about? The new Shen splash art isn't muddy at all. Are you using some cheap TN-Panel LCD display that lacks proper colour depth? I see a lot of definition in the picture and it looks plenty bright and awesome but then I'm using a high gamut IPS display (not that readability on low-end displays isn't important, I'm just saying that I don't see the issue and that's one possible reason why our views differ).
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4800 Posts
October 14 2014 12:15 GMT
#1047
On October 14 2014 20:19 AetherZucchini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 14 2014 18:53 Uldridge wrote:
The thing I'm actually STILL not over is, because I can't really look at this new splass (hue, first typo but I guess I'd stick with it) art stuff at work (slow computer etc), is that they made Malphite splash look SO COOL, but his in game character still looks stupid as HELL. Why WHY would you do that when the change doesn't translate in game at all.
Hope they make Cho' Gath more viscious in game aswell. His new splash is really, really cool too.


That's indeed a big issue, especially when there is a big change in the general look of the character. For most of the recent splashes it's not that problematic, but look at Tristana's for example : the ingame model corresponds with her old splash really well, and looks nothing like the new one. So even though the new splash is nice, in the end it's gonna feel cheap and lame to play with such a bad in-game model.


Honestly it's bad advertising aswell. For new players for example, they be like: "Hmm, who or what am I going to choose... Oh this guy looks fucking badass.." And then they get that clunky looking statue thing with a weird ass horn in game. It's like you're not getting what you've payed for, but since the game is completely free I guess that's what they're trying to shove in our throats haha.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 12:19:31
October 14 2014 12:18 GMT
#1048
I personally really like the new shen splash. It's one of the few splashes that have a passive pose. Doesn't lack for definition on my phone or laptop either.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
October 14 2014 13:25 GMT
#1049
On October 14 2014 20:35 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 19:00 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 18:38 Scip wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:51 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.

Neither Ahri seems like the liver eating type to me
Maybe the old Cassiopea she's kinda inviting you with the outstretched hand and she kinda smiling but you can't tell whether it's because she thinks you're a tasty treat or because you're hot (perhaps literally, #coldbloodedproblems). I'd totally go an cuddle and hope she just wants the warmth even though those sharp claws look really scary but yeah maybe she'd totally eat your liver.


Well of course she doesn't look like the liver eating type. If you are the liver eating type of girl, you want to make very sure not to look like you eat peoples livers, otherwise you get less livers to eat because people are gonna stay away from you. Who wants to get his liver eaten, after all. So logically, the ones that look the least like they are going to eat your livers are most likely to eat your liver. Always keep that in mind.

Cass, on the other hand, is a snake. She doesn't even have the teeth necessary to selectively eat your liver. She is either gonna swallow you completely, or not at all. But i guess if she eats you completely, that also means that she eats your liver.

She could rip out the liver with her sharp sharp claws :3
Also I don't believe this story about Ahri killing men for fun I mean I read a lot of stories about kitsune taking the life force of men and it was a lot less murdery than what you're describing


Well, have fun getting your liver eaten in that case. Personally, i tend to err on the side of caution when the topic is the eating of my liver. I like my liver, i need it to live.

And personally i don't really care WHY she would eat my liver, if it is for fun, for nutrition, or just because my liver is so damn tasty. I still don't want it to be eaten.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 14 2014 13:38 GMT
#1050
On October 14 2014 20:35 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 19:00 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 18:38 Scip wrote:
On October 14 2014 17:51 Simberto wrote:
On October 14 2014 14:39 Scip wrote:
The old Ahri looks a lot more aloof and playful while this new Ahri looks really aggressively seductive. I don't mind. I am not a big fan of the lipstick but w/e, I can get used to that. She does look more caucasian and I'd prefer she stayed a bit more asian but that's just my personal preference.
With the old Ahri you'd play hide and seek for a while and it'd be really fun but she knows magic and stuff so she'd keep winning and then she'd finally let you find her and you'd catch her and make out. The new Ahri is more like, she has that evil twinkle in her eye and even as you start backing out she just follows you and when you hit a wall or a corner you are in for some action, she'll enslave your body with her magic and do whatever she pleases.


You forgot to mention the part where she eats your liver.

Neither Ahri seems like the liver eating type to me
Maybe the old Cassiopea she's kinda inviting you with the outstretched hand and she kinda smiling but you can't tell whether it's because she thinks you're a tasty treat or because you're hot (perhaps literally, #coldbloodedproblems). I'd totally go an cuddle and hope she just wants the warmth even though those sharp claws look really scary but yeah maybe she'd totally eat your liver.


Well of course she doesn't look like the liver eating type. If you are the liver eating type of girl, you want to make very sure not to look like you eat peoples livers, otherwise you get less livers to eat because people are gonna stay away from you. Who wants to get his liver eaten, after all. So logically, the ones that look the least like they are going to eat your livers are most likely to eat your liver. Always keep that in mind.

Cass, on the other hand, is a snake. She doesn't even have the teeth necessary to selectively eat your liver. She is either gonna swallow you completely, or not at all. But i guess if she eats you completely, that also means that she eats your liver.

She could rip out the liver with her sharp sharp claws :3
Also I don't believe this story about Ahri killing men for fun I mean I read a lot of stories about kitsune taking the life force of men and it was a lot less murdery than what you're describing


I thought you literally die by your desires aka she fucks you to death?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 14 2014 13:53 GMT
#1051
Nope, she just use their desires to lure them and more easily consume their "essence", which gets her closer and closer to becoming human.
'cept by becoming human she also develops stuff like mercy and remorse, and she's finding harder and harder to just kill people to "perfect" herself. That part was why she joined the League ("Work for us, we find a way for you to turn human without having to kill anymore") so it'll probably be retconned once they make a pass on her.

I guess you could interpret "feeding on their desires" both as "having sex with them" (which is implied by her seducing men and consuming their essence while they're vulnerable) and/or "building her new nature from the desires which drive humans' lives".
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 14 2014 13:59 GMT
#1052
Basically she's a hybrid of a succubus and cell
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 14 2014 14:40 GMT
#1053
they should stop updating splash art for old stuff honestly. it just adds more levels of confusion for me during champion select trying to discern the tiny portraits.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 14 2014 14:42 GMT
#1054
On October 14 2014 23:40 Frolossus wrote:
they should stop updating splash art for old stuff honestly. it just adds more levels of confusion for me during champion select trying to discern the tiny portraits.


They should just keep the portraits the same tbh. Have cool looking splash and same hero icons. Don't know why they have to be the same. The two aren't really linked aside from if you specifically looking at it.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 14 2014 14:49 GMT
#1055
These are serious issues right here. Not sure if you are serious thoughm suggesting to update the splash but keep the old icon, while complaining about confusion.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 14 2014 14:56 GMT
#1056
well good to see riot is past puberty and over their boob obsession, but some of those new artworks suck.
Jannas Splash is allready good, why change it to this alien.
Ahri is also bad now, lost some of her charm.
Wukong just looks like an intern did it.


I like Kayle Splash, makes her look more according to her lore (which they killed, but still).
Tristana also looks according to her lore.




IDK about shen, he looks like he is melting or something.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 15:03:02
October 14 2014 15:02 GMT
#1057
On October 14 2014 23:49 Volband wrote:
These are serious issues right here. Not sure if you are serious thoughm suggesting to update the splash but keep the old icon, while complaining about confusion.

the problem is the new splash art tends to have a darker tone, so the icons don't pop out nearly as much, esp on minimap.

also, new janna looks more elvish than before.
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craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 15:14:59
October 14 2014 15:13 GMT
#1058
Thanks guys, I had so much fun reading the last 5 pages.

I think splash art X is the coolest while splash art Y is the least cool.
Splash art Z is not sexy enough while splash art W is the sexiest of all.
I hate riot for doing things but I also hate people for hating riot for doing things.

Wow it feels so great sharing this very emotional and important thoughts with all of you.

edit: pls don't complain about me complaining about you complaining
▲ I was really thirsty while playing a match. All my teammates were gone, so I drank from the water bottle that was next to me. It was very good. I thank the owner of the bottle.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 14 2014 15:33 GMT
#1059
On October 15 2014 00:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 23:49 Volband wrote:
These are serious issues right here. Not sure if you are serious thoughm suggesting to update the splash but keep the old icon, while complaining about confusion.

the problem is the new splash art tends to have a darker tone, so the icons don't pop out nearly as much, esp on minimap.

also, new janna looks more elvish than before.

Also, more Janna's head is 0/10. I wouldn't mind the transition of her eyes into less human (maybe new lore explains it?), nor the emotionless face (same), but why on earth hdid they have to make it so. damn. UGLY. Okay, not every women's face is gorgeous, and cute, and sexy, and likeable, but come on, she's like an alien. Then you hear her talk in game and wonder how can such a delicate voice match this... butcher face.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 14 2014 15:33 GMT
#1060
On October 14 2014 23:49 Volband wrote:
These are serious issues right here. Not sure if you are serious thoughm suggesting to update the splash but keep the old icon, while complaining about confusion.


Why? No one looks at the splash art. That's only there for the person actually playing the hero. Everyone else identifies the hero by the icon. Even the person that picks the hero identifies it by the icon. The new splashes all have hard to read icons so if you want to lower the confusions then you could just keep the old icons that are already linked to that hero in people's mind and change the splash to the new ones for people that like eyecandy.
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