EPT[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 28
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 11 2014 13:15 JazzVortical wrote: As a casual, colourblind Dota 2 player, the icons are MUCH better than the colours. The colours are absolutely pointless to me. Does colorblind mode help at all? Generally curious because I have no direct experience with how useful colorblind mode is in games for colorblind people. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 11 2014 13:16 TheYango wrote: Does colorblind mode help at all? Generally curious because I have no direct experience with how useful colorblind mode is in games for colorblind people. I know I play with colorblind mode on for League just because I like the colors better. lol | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
This is quite possibly the worst in the game, and its not nearly as bad as anything Dota does with regards to its art direction. On October 11 2014 13:13 red_ wrote: Also our brains are trained to do facial recognition OF HUMAN BEINGS, not void monsters or somewhat anthropomorphic moving water creatures(and in League's case the splash/map icon isn't always just a face pointed straight at the 'observer'). No. Our brains do facial recognition of fucking everything. Its why we see faces in rocks and clouds and why you can't help but see a face with you see a smiley face. You're confusing monkey sphere issues (in that we only store a limited amount of facial and conceptual recognition) with a lack of facial recognition On October 11 2014 13:09 Sufficiency wrote: Also I think you guys are missing this point: Poland is so strong in Civ5 that it is usually considered to be on a tier by itself. Its not that strong. Babylon, Inca, Ethiopia, Egypt, England, Korea, and Perisa are all on the same level. http://imgur.com/a/983R3 | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 11 2014 10:03 Scip wrote: To be fair though, doesn't Poland like, kinda suck? I don't mean the people, I have nothing against Polish people, but man it must suck to be Polish. Why so racist bro? | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 11 2014 13:17 Goumindong wrote: This is quite possibly the worst in the game, and its not nearly as bad as anything Dota does with regards to its art direction. No. Our brains do facial recognition of fucking everything. Its why we see faces in rocks and clouds and why you can't help but see a face with you see a smiley face. You're confusing monkey sphere issues (in that we only store a limited amount of facial and conceptual recognition) with a lack of facial recognition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia I worded myself improperly by saying we "do" facial recognition, when obviously what we do is scan things to recognize them as faces and gather information from the face(do I remember this face, match the motion of this face with emotional patterns, etc). Perceiving faces in other things is basically an error in our brains from trying to scan everything to see if it's a human, including vague objects like something barely visible in the darkness. Anyhow, this is so far removed from meaningful context to a video game at this point. Facial recognition does not help you remember that the Cho'Gath was a teammate and not an enemy, at least not in the way you are attributing. An icon can definitely be an identification point, but it is not because of the link to the survival instinct of reading faces. | ||
Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 11 2014 13:12 TheYango wrote: The minimap icons are like half a centimeter in diameter across. I'm pretty skeptical about a face shrunk down to that size being useful, especially when the faces in question are not distinct human faces, but shades of blue or purple with glowy eyes. IMO LoL's system is straight up better once you know all the champs. Being able to instantly identify an icon on the minimap helps a ton. I've played about 20 games of dota, and I still don't understand the colors thing. Memorizing 10 heroes assigned 10 colors every game is not a skill that's easily picked up. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 11 2014 13:31 Amui wrote: IMO LoL's system is straight up better once you know all the champs. Being able to instantly identify an icon on the minimap helps a ton. I've played about 20 games of dota, and I still don't understand the colors thing. Memorizing 10 heroes assigned 10 colors every game is not a skill that's easily picked up. The thing is, by the time you know all the champs, it's totally moot because you have the option to choose player colors, team colors, hero icons, or hero names in the options. It's literally only a relevant discussion to absolutely new players who are not familiar enough with the game to know what options are available (well and to spectators, but that's because English-language commentators are fucking retarded and don't cast with hero names or icons). | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
# of games played doenst mean shit | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2475 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I like how the DotA spectator UI shows when people buy items. I think if they had that in League it would be an improvement. I actually think some of the data in the League spectator UI is redundant and could be streamlined. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 11 2014 13:31 Amui wrote: IMO LoL's system is straight up better once you know all the champs. Being able to instantly identify an icon on the minimap helps a ton. I've played about 20 games of dota, and I still don't understand the colors thing. Memorizing 10 heroes assigned 10 colors every game is not a skill that's easily picked up. A player has most certainly not memorized all the champ icons in 20 games either. As mentioned earlier, Dota2 actually has a purpose for colors(identifying TPs), so keeping that in mind I don't have an issue with the system at all(I'd actually find it incredibly annoying if they swapped to icons for TPs, but maybe it would be the better long term move I don't know). For a new player both systems require referencing something to a larger image in game, every game, for many games. After playing for an extended period it's going to just become instinct to mentally go over the color->hero matches in the pregame time, and if it doesn't happen then you probably have general awareness skills to work on anyway(like, you're going to care about the color combinations if you're constantly looking at the map or are looking at tp colors for info, which will build that ability and make it instinctive). | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
(Elder Titan, Storm Spirit (yes, the new one) and Legion Commander come to mind as examples but there are more) | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
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