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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 11 2014 04:15 GMT
#541
As a casual, colourblind Dota 2 player, the icons are MUCH better than the colours. The colours are absolutely pointless to me.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 11 2014 04:16 GMT
#542
On October 11 2014 13:15 JazzVortical wrote:
As a casual, colourblind Dota 2 player, the icons are MUCH better than the colours. The colours are absolutely pointless to me.

Does colorblind mode help at all?

Generally curious because I have no direct experience with how useful colorblind mode is in games for colorblind people.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 11 2014 04:17 GMT
#543
On October 11 2014 13:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:15 JazzVortical wrote:
As a casual, colourblind Dota 2 player, the icons are MUCH better than the colours. The colours are absolutely pointless to me.

Does colorblind mode help at all?

Generally curious because I have no direct experience with how useful colorblind mode is in games for colorblind people.

I know I play with colorblind mode on for League just because I like the colors better. lol
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 04:19:03
October 11 2014 04:17 GMT
#544
On October 11 2014 13:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
Remember kids This and This are easily associated.


This is quite possibly the worst in the game, and its not nearly as bad as anything Dota does with regards to its art direction.

On October 11 2014 13:13 red_ wrote:
Also our brains are trained to do facial recognition OF HUMAN BEINGS, not void monsters or somewhat anthropomorphic moving water creatures(and in League's case the splash/map icon isn't always just a face pointed straight at the 'observer').


No. Our brains do facial recognition of fucking everything. Its why we see faces in rocks and clouds and why you can't help but see a face with you see a smiley face. You're confusing monkey sphere issues (in that we only store a limited amount of facial and conceptual recognition) with a lack of facial recognition


On October 11 2014 13:09 Sufficiency wrote:
Also I think you guys are missing this point:

Poland is so strong in Civ5 that it is usually considered to be on a tier by itself.


Its not that strong. Babylon, Inca, Ethiopia, Egypt, England, Korea, and Perisa are all on the same level.

http://imgur.com/a/983R3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 11 2014 04:18 GMT
#545
Yeah I did that for a while in both games, I just have no idea how useful they are for the actual intended purpose, lol.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 11 2014 04:21 GMT
#546
colourblind mode is so much more saturated in league
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 11 2014 04:30 GMT
#547
On October 11 2014 10:03 Scip wrote:
To be fair though, doesn't Poland like, kinda suck? I don't mean the people, I have nothing against Polish people, but man it must suck to be Polish.

Why so racist bro?
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 11 2014 04:31 GMT
#548
On October 11 2014 13:17 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
Remember kids This and This are easily associated.


This is quite possibly the worst in the game, and its not nearly as bad as anything Dota does with regards to its art direction.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:13 red_ wrote:
Also our brains are trained to do facial recognition OF HUMAN BEINGS, not void monsters or somewhat anthropomorphic moving water creatures(and in League's case the splash/map icon isn't always just a face pointed straight at the 'observer').


No. Our brains do facial recognition of fucking everything. Its why we see faces in rocks and clouds and why you can't help but see a face with you see a smiley face. You're confusing monkey sphere issues (in that we only store a limited amount of facial and conceptual recognition) with a lack of facial recognition


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

I worded myself improperly by saying we "do" facial recognition, when obviously what we do is scan things to recognize them as faces and gather information from the face(do I remember this face, match the motion of this face with emotional patterns, etc). Perceiving faces in other things is basically an error in our brains from trying to scan everything to see if it's a human, including vague objects like something barely visible in the darkness.

Anyhow, this is so far removed from meaningful context to a video game at this point. Facial recognition does not help you remember that the Cho'Gath was a teammate and not an enemy, at least not in the way you are attributing. An icon can definitely be an identification point, but it is not because of the link to the survival instinct of reading faces.

How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 11 2014 04:31 GMT
#549
On October 11 2014 13:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
Remember kids This and This are easily associated.

The minimap icons are like half a centimeter in diameter across. I'm pretty skeptical about a face shrunk down to that size being useful, especially when the faces in question are not distinct human faces, but shades of blue or purple with glowy eyes.

IMO LoL's system is straight up better once you know all the champs.

Being able to instantly identify an icon on the minimap helps a ton.

I've played about 20 games of dota, and I still don't understand the colors thing. Memorizing 10 heroes assigned 10 colors every game is not a skill that's easily picked up.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
October 11 2014 04:32 GMT
#550
i definitely had no clue what the deal with the colors was and who was on which team the first few games of dota2 i watched during TI. if someone isn't already familiar with standard moba map stuff like lanes, towers, and creeps it must take them forever to figure out what is going on.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 04:38:15
October 11 2014 04:34 GMT
#551
On October 11 2014 13:31 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:12 TheYango wrote:
On October 11 2014 13:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
Remember kids This and This are easily associated.

The minimap icons are like half a centimeter in diameter across. I'm pretty skeptical about a face shrunk down to that size being useful, especially when the faces in question are not distinct human faces, but shades of blue or purple with glowy eyes.

IMO LoL's system is straight up better once you know all the champs.

Being able to instantly identify an icon on the minimap helps a ton.

I've played about 20 games of dota, and I still don't understand the colors thing. Memorizing 10 heroes assigned 10 colors every game is not a skill that's easily picked up.

The thing is, by the time you know all the champs, it's totally moot because you have the option to choose player colors, team colors, hero icons, or hero names in the options.

It's literally only a relevant discussion to absolutely new players who are not familiar enough with the game to know what options are available (well and to spectators, but that's because English-language commentators are fucking retarded and don't cast with hero names or icons).
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 11 2014 04:39 GMT
#552
i played 20 games of league and couldnt even afford one quint rune for a rune page
# of games played doenst mean shit
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
October 11 2014 04:44 GMT
#553
It's amazing to me how terrible DoTA is when it has Valve as their backbone. Valve is like...the best company in the world so it is kinda depressing how terrible DoTA is when you compare it to League. League is just better in every aspect. The only thing DoTA has over league is the community support. But that's mainly because Valve knows the community can create/balance/whatever better than they ever could.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 11 2014 04:48 GMT
#554
Not every aspect. DotA has replays.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 11 2014 04:53 GMT
#555
There are definitely things I like better about DotA.

I like how the DotA spectator UI shows when people buy items. I think if they had that in League it would be an improvement.

I actually think some of the data in the League spectator UI is redundant and could be streamlined.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
October 11 2014 05:07 GMT
#556
On October 11 2014 13:31 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:12 TheYango wrote:
On October 11 2014 13:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
Remember kids This and This are easily associated.

The minimap icons are like half a centimeter in diameter across. I'm pretty skeptical about a face shrunk down to that size being useful, especially when the faces in question are not distinct human faces, but shades of blue or purple with glowy eyes.

IMO LoL's system is straight up better once you know all the champs.

Being able to instantly identify an icon on the minimap helps a ton.

I've played about 20 games of dota, and I still don't understand the colors thing. Memorizing 10 heroes assigned 10 colors every game is not a skill that's easily picked up.


A player has most certainly not memorized all the champ icons in 20 games either. As mentioned earlier, Dota2 actually has a purpose for colors(identifying TPs), so keeping that in mind I don't have an issue with the system at all(I'd actually find it incredibly annoying if they swapped to icons for TPs, but maybe it would be the better long term move I don't know). For a new player both systems require referencing something to a larger image in game, every game, for many games. After playing for an extended period it's going to just become instinct to mentally go over the color->hero matches in the pregame time, and if it doesn't happen then you probably have general awareness skills to work on anyway(like, you're going to care about the color combinations if you're constantly looking at the map or are looking at tp colors for info, which will build that ability and make it instinctive).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 05:17:50
October 11 2014 05:12 GMT
#557
to be honest the only thing I really don't like about dota is the Art direction, like when I think of the cool ways you could do the majority of the cast, what they went with isn't what comes to mind.

(Elder Titan, Storm Spirit (yes, the new one) and Legion Commander come to mind as examples but there are more)
Carrilord has arrived.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 11 2014 05:23 GMT
#558
I like the new Storm Spirit. I'm glad they changed it from that horrible fat blue guy.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 11 2014 05:24 GMT
#559
Well it would have been best if they could keep him as a Panda, but they couldn't because Blizzard.
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ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
October 11 2014 05:28 GMT
#560
blizzard is not the first or last company to put a panda in a gi
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
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