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Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
October 27 2014 05:37 GMT
#2141
Huh. Personally, I've seen a fair number of Akali bans, but very few actual Akalis, except for me when I'm forced off support. And my Akali isn't really worth banning. Or, well, it kind of is, in that my next-best solo laner is Lulu and I don't really know how to play her outside of support, but that's another thing entirely.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
October 27 2014 14:07 GMT
#2142
Were bots always been this buggy or is this a recent thing? Warwick bot completely freezes once I start attacking him, and just now I had a bot chasing me, but when i started to disrespect him with /l spam, the bot started to stutter, like when you move and spam a command at the same time.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 27 2014 14:27 GMT
#2143
Akali is easy to deal with once you buy an appropriate amount of pink wards/upgrade your sweeper trinket. If her W doesn't give her any protection she crumbles. She's a mid-game focused assassin and people love 100-0ing people, it was only a matter of time before she was played again.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 27 2014 14:49 GMT
#2144
On October 27 2014 23:27 Zdrastochye wrote:
Akali is easy to deal with once you buy an appropriate amount of pink wards/upgrade your sweeper trinket. If her W doesn't give her any protection she crumbles. She's a mid-game focused assassin and people love 100-0ing people, it was only a matter of time before she was played again.

yeah, but tell that to the rest of your team if they get caught out

maybe it's cause I'm still in silver (but prolly not) but far too many people don't buy pink wards cause it's the support's job...never mind that he can only put one down.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 27 2014 14:53 GMT
#2145
And your teammates will probably get caught out, there's no preventing that in the solo queue atmosphere, however when it comes to team fights there's nothing stopping YOU from buying a pink ward and hopefully you can stop Akali from continuing her snowball rolling all over your faces, because in the end game she's much less effective then post-laning phase/roaming where she's at her peak.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 27 2014 14:56 GMT
#2146
Oh sure, and I do, I'm just explaining the rationale that people have for banning her.

Personally I just keep banning bronzodia anyway cause the shit's still OP in Silver.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 27 2014 16:36 GMT
#2147
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 27 2014 16:53 GMT
#2148
I hate to break it to you bro, but akali is strong at all levels of play, except maybe strong 5v5 premade environments.

No need to call her a bronze champion, just makes you seem petty.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 17:04:24
October 27 2014 16:56 GMT
#2149
As usual, Malzahar is the answer to all of League's problems. Akali can't deal with your face laser.

I had a big argument in a game with a Jarvan who was adamant that Malzahar MUST build Liandry's Torment. As far as I'm concerned LT is a noob trap item for Malzahar (yes I realize most pros build it). I should probably experiment with it but I don't like playing my core champions in normals and I'd rather stick to builds that I know work in ranked.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 27 2014 17:02 GMT
#2150
Awwwww Yis, WK Xin on sale tomorrow.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 27 2014 18:46 GMT
#2151
On October 28 2014 01:53 iCanada wrote:
No need to call her a bronze champion, just makes you seem petty.


Who called her bronze champion? I didn't find that despite scouring the thread.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 27 2014 19:09 GMT
#2152
On October 28 2014 03:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 01:53 iCanada wrote:
No need to call her a bronze champion, just makes you seem petty.


Who called her bronze champion? I didn't find that despite scouring the thread.


Dystopia referred to her as "bronzodia", which gives the impression that she is auto win.

Although I suppose he never said she was a bronze champ.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 27 2014 19:11 GMT
#2153
On October 28 2014 04:09 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 03:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 28 2014 01:53 iCanada wrote:
No need to call her a bronze champion, just makes you seem petty.


Who called her bronze champion? I didn't find that despite scouring the thread.


Dystopia referred to her as "bronzodia", which gives the impression that she is auto win.

Although I suppose he never said she was a bronze champ.


Bronzodia is something entirely different, sorry.
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IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
October 27 2014 19:35 GMT
#2154
On October 28 2014 04:11 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 04:09 iCanada wrote:
On October 28 2014 03:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On October 28 2014 01:53 iCanada wrote:
No need to call her a bronze champion, just makes you seem petty.


Who called her bronze champion? I didn't find that despite scouring the thread.


Dystopia referred to her as "bronzodia", which gives the impression that she is auto win.

Although I suppose he never said she was a bronze champ.


Bronzodia is something entirely different, sorry.

i think the difference is in bronze and silver when akali gets a ahead early the chance of the team shutting her down is unlikely where higher levels will buy more pinks, group/ postion better and make better use of there cc on her. not say she doesn't stomp in diamond if she gets fed early too but less likely she will outright win the game by herself like u see champs at lower levels.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#2155
On October 28 2014 01:56 Alzadar wrote:
As usual, Malzahar is the answer to all of League's problems. Akali can't deal with your face laser.

I had a big argument in a game with a Jarvan who was adamant that Malzahar MUST build Liandry's Torment. As far as I'm concerned LT is a noob trap item for Malzahar (yes I realize most pros build it). I should probably experiment with it but I don't like playing my core champions in normals and I'd rather stick to builds that I know work in ranked.


I can see Haunting Guise because penetration is super strong when you have so much pure damage at your disposal, but LT should not be a priority on him at all. Unless they've changed how LT's proc works refreshing the proc munches ticks, which means Malzahar's abilities munch ticks like crazy.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 27 2014 20:02 GMT
#2156
They changed it awhile ago. I remember testing it using Udyr and Pantheon because RoG featured a totally inaccurate article from someone who didn't do the research at all, and a few patches later it was changed so that it only resets the duration.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 27 2014 20:06 GMT
#2157
That's not as terrible then, but unless you can poke a lot or have a lot of slows helping you I don't see the appeal.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 27 2014 20:10 GMT
#2158
Well that's the other thing, LT sort of locks you into an eventual Rylai, which I sometimes get as 6th item on Malz but it isn't all that appealing.

I hate giving up item flexibility. Some games you NEED Hourglass and there's no way you can delay it until like 3rd-4th item. I have a hard time giving up Athene also. Liandry-Rylai would need to do like 50% more damage to justify building it over Hourglass-Grail, which can't possible be the case.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 27 2014 20:17 GMT
#2159
On October 28 2014 05:10 Alzadar wrote:
Well that's the other thing, LT sort of locks you into an eventual Rylai, which I sometimes get as 6th item on Malz but it isn't all that appealing.

I hate giving up item flexibility. Some games you NEED Hourglass and there's no way you can delay it until like 3rd-4th item. I have a hard time giving up Athene also. Liandry-Rylai would need to do like 50% more damage to justify building it over Hourglass-Grail, which can't possible be the case.


This is my struggle with Cass vs assassin right now. Clearly it's not a matchup I'd want to have, but I also want to be able to figure it out for the times it ends up happening. Hourglass is super important asap, but giving up Rylai's first really sucks T_T

On that note, I've just recently started taking exhaust against assassins as any mid (why I didn't do this before I have no idea), and it's really quite lovely. Makes Annie vs assassin even more simple, and it lets me fudge Cass vs assassin at gold level fairly well.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#2160
Rylai's is better/stronger relative to where it was when I stopped playing, but I'd rather grab an early Haunting Guise to abuse penetration and then divert to Athene's/Zhonya's before committing to LT and Rylai's. That said Malzahar is the sort of champion whose itemization choices are fairly varied, and in the right contexts LT is probably strong.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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