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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 25 2014 04:37 GMT
#2041
On October 25 2014 12:22 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 12:19 Inflicted wrote:
On October 25 2014 11:37 krndandaman wrote:
man, late game blue ez is crazy good. legit hyper carry status.

if you hit the q your e is only like a 4 second cd which is retardedly good. I was untouchable with a build of cdr boots, essence reaver, ice born gauntlet, last whisper, and mercurial scimitar.

only downside is his laning is so shit. I can see blue ez coming back if the asssassin/dive meta ever comes back and teams laneswap the ez like they do for twitch. and the ER change would probably help as well.


I prefer Botrk over ER.
Blue-ez mid is actually really strong. He actually bullies most mids from 1-5 with AA passive & E-Q allowing you to go past minions. You get like 3 powerspikes when you hit Sheen, Iceborn & Manamune.

Also, not convinced that Azir is good. He can bully pretty well in lane if you play it right but his ult is complete garbage, and you need like 2-3 items to be effective in fights. Overall, feels like a worse version of Orianna.


botrk is alright. I like my Q to hit like a truck though and the as is kinda useless since I'm barely aa-ing with blue ez. the cooldown to cap at 40% is great as well. 4 second E's op. pretty much urf. however if qss doesn't seem like a good buy for the situation, I would go botrk to be more slippery. I got qss my last game because I was against a warwick/zed/morgana team.

I think azir is heavily underrated. I can see him being played in LCS next season and being quite good. the few good azirs I saw were terror.

I don't think Azir was ever truly underrated. A lot of people were saying he'd be quite strong even when he was just on PBE.

It's more that he had so many bugs on release + he has a pretty steep skill curve that he looked really underwhelming. Once Riot fixed his bugs + the qol buffs, it became pretty clear he would be really strong.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 05:20:02
October 25 2014 05:16 GMT
#2042
He is still rather bad early game.

His level one can be absolutely devastating. Its so easy to just get rolled level 1 by a competant opponent, you cannot trade and last hit at the same time, and any trade you commit to is 100% all in otherwise you lose hard because you can't leave your soldier. I dont think a single other champ has a worse level 1. You basically a sitting duck until 2. Honestly I'd rather be a level 1 Eve that started with her W.

He is a great champ once he gets rolling though. Pretty fun and interesting too. I like him.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
October 25 2014 05:46 GMT
#2043
On October 25 2014 14:16 iCanada wrote:
He is still rather bad early game.

His level one can be absolutely devastating. Its so easy to just get rolled level 1 by a competant opponent, you cannot trade and last hit at the same time, and any trade you commit to is 100% all in otherwise you lose hard because you can't leave your soldier. I dont think a single other champ has a worse level 1. You basically a sitting duck until 2. Honestly I'd rather be a level 1 Eve that started with her W.

He is a great champ once he gets rolling though. Pretty fun and interesting too. I like him.


1v1 me mid. i'll play azir, you play eve with W level 1. I'll beat the hyperbole out of you.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 25 2014 05:52 GMT
#2044
Man, eve would be such a fun champion if they didn't have to make her pathetically weak to balance the stealth.
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 25 2014 06:00 GMT
#2045
the nk inc thing is hilarious
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 06:07:43
October 25 2014 06:07 GMT
#2046
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/61339194#profile
http://www.twitch.tv/saliant2
This is the new mid laner for Fusion. I donno, this guy looks really bad on Zed at Plat 1.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 25 2014 06:14 GMT
#2047
Hexakill is pretty dang fun. Picked blitz and landed hooks for daeyz.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
October 25 2014 07:06 GMT
#2048
Eh, Azir has a stronger level 1 than a lot of people by merit of being ranged, but it doesn't mean much given what he'll be up against.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 25 2014 12:11 GMT
#2049
mata left SSW already lol

https://www.facebook.com/onGamerscom/posts/587297328041437
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 25 2014 12:38 GMT
#2050
I like all the space and text it takes them to transmit what the first 4 words literally summed up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 25 2014 13:32 GMT
#2051
On October 25 2014 14:52 cLutZ wrote:
Man, eve would be such a fun champion if they didn't have to make her pathetically weak to balance the stealth.

LOL might want to check me out next time I stream
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 15:39:31
October 25 2014 15:39 GMT
#2052
On October 25 2014 22:32 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 14:52 cLutZ wrote:
Man, eve would be such a fun champion if they didn't have to make her pathetically weak to balance the stealth.

LOL might want to check me out next time I stream

Give me my DFG eve back
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 25 2014 15:53 GMT
#2053
On October 25 2014 22:32 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 14:52 cLutZ wrote:
Man, eve would be such a fun champion if they didn't have to make her pathetically weak to balance the stealth.

LOL might want to check me out next time I stream

Man you must be some kind of Eve master, just 1v1ing the other jungler all day.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 25 2014 19:36 GMT
#2054
http://www.twitch.tv/chiankim <--- someone is learning from Kacetron.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 21:11:14
October 25 2014 21:07 GMT
#2055
Azir's level 1 is weak, but it's not impossible to get out of. He is VERY weak against strong level 1-2 champions like Riven/Yasuo/etc, but he wouldn't be the first professionally played champion who can be counterpicked.

The current problem with Azir is that he is still buggy. The first round of bug fixes made him playable, but he will need a second round of bug fixes in order to be reliable.

Good news is Riot has already acknowledged that he needs a second round of bug fixes and said they will fix them in the next patch.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 25 2014 21:33 GMT
#2056
graves ulting waves to farm next level or what
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
October 25 2014 21:33 GMT
#2057
So Madlife is replacing Mata in SSW. Thats a good news.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 25 2014 21:56 GMT
#2058
On October 26 2014 06:33 FinestHour wrote:
graves ulting waves to farm next level or what

MF and Lucian do it so must be fine.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 22:06:45
October 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#2059
On October 26 2014 06:07 Ketara wrote:
Azir's level 1 is weak, but it's not impossible to get out of. He is VERY weak against strong level 1-2 champions like Riven/Yasuo/etc, but he wouldn't be the first professionally played champion who can be counterpicked.

The current problem with Azir is that he is still buggy. The first round of bug fixes made him playable, but he will need a second round of bug fixes in order to be reliable.

Good news is Riot has already acknowledged that he needs a second round of bug fixes and said they will fix them in the next patch.

he's pretty good against yasuo at lvl 1 because he can pretty much always hit 2 first. and he can stay out of range pretty easily until then.

im pretty worried about how strong his passive is going to be when the azir turrets ramp up in damage properly..
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 22:08:53
October 25 2014 22:08 GMT
#2060
It should be strong. It's immobile, has a long cooldown, can't be used for the first portion of the game, and gives the enemy team gold.

I have been killed at lvl1 as Azir vs. Yasuo if the Yasuo starts with his dash first. If he starts Q it's not so big a deal.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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