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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 27 2014 19:57 GMT
#361
Nah I dont give a fuck about FNC, I'm just hating on how Riot is handling their bugs and corresponding PR.
The game doesn't behave like it should, and in this case there are a few thousand dollars on the line and a whole lot of emotions involved. The way they handle these issues, plus their track records in handling issues that are as emotionally sensitive (GMB, TSM) is just so... narf!

And for some reason unbeknownst to me, this triggers me hard. Should probably look into that. Sigh.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 27 2014 20:11 GMT
#362
Ugh, first game with Orianna since the base AD nerf. That's so huge, her damage to minions is pathetic to last hit. :'(
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 20:28:20
September 27 2014 20:15 GMT
#363
this isn't even close to being something that should trigger a remake, what is wrong with people? even if you could demonstrate that it is 100% a bug and not just a poorly understood game mechanic, all the evidence points to soaz finding a way to mess up and not do enough damage anyway.

he had this idea of being the hero in his head when he teleported, but when he got there the realization that rumble doesn't actually do any damage to structures sent him into panic mode and he was just randomly pressing buttons.

like even if for some reason he wasn't allowed to kill minions with his ult or avoid isolating himself, he has to at least ult somewhere that he can stand next to so that khazix has to take some damage/slow in order to attack him. basically the only way he could have positioned his ultimate more poorly was if he placed it directly in the center of the nexus or threw it randomly 10 feet behind him towards his own base.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 20:24:00
September 27 2014 20:23 GMT
#364
Rito pls just make ARAM more fun. Random draft is supposed to be random, just pull random from entire champ pool.

ARAM accounts are pure cancer.

I didn't wanna play ranked drunk but now I haveto.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#365
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#366
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 27 2014 20:32 GMT
#367
On September 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)

but it didn't? doesn't matter if homeguard gave him an extra 500hp he shouldn't have had (which is debateable anyway) if soaz doesn't attack him.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
September 27 2014 20:39 GMT
#368
On September 28 2014 05:32 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)

but it didn't? doesn't matter if homeguard gave him an extra 500hp he shouldn't have had (which is debateable anyway) if soaz doesn't attack him.


meanwhile dota completely changes from the ground up, pushes the patch in the middle of tournament series and has a bugs list that goes well over 500+ hehe

Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
September 27 2014 20:43 GMT
#369
Bought 3 Mystery Skins. Blackthorne Morgana, Void Fizz, Lunar Princess Diana. Decent?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 27 2014 20:43 GMT
#370
On September 28 2014 05:32 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)

but it didn't? doesn't matter if homeguard gave him an extra 500hp he shouldn't have had (which is debateable anyway) if soaz doesn't attack him.

If he hadn't ran out with the speed boost it's likely sOAZ could have gotten off one more autoattack which would have been all they needed. Although this is partial speculation despite it being likely.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 27 2014 20:45 GMT
#371
On September 28 2014 05:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:32 chalice wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)

but it didn't? doesn't matter if homeguard gave him an extra 500hp he shouldn't have had (which is debateable anyway) if soaz doesn't attack him.

If he hadn't ran out with the speed boost it's likely sOAZ could have gotten off one more autoattack which would have been all they needed. Although this is partial speculation despite it being likely.

But he didn't run out with speed boost, the rumble ult canceled it. He jumped the rumble ult.

Had rumble ulted the wave and just stood on it he would have won, he would have not been isolated and had bonus creep damage AND khazix would have had to stand in the rumble ult to damage him.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#372
On September 28 2014 05:45 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:32 chalice wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)

but it didn't? doesn't matter if homeguard gave him an extra 500hp he shouldn't have had (which is debateable anyway) if soaz doesn't attack him.

If he hadn't ran out with the speed boost it's likely sOAZ could have gotten off one more autoattack which would have been all they needed. Although this is partial speculation despite it being likely.

But he didn't run out with speed boost, the rumble ult canceled it. He jumped the rumble ult.

Had rumble ulted the wave and just stood on it he would have won, he would have not been isolated and had bonus creep damage AND khazix would have had to stand in the rumble ult to damage him.

Ah, forgot about the poor Rumble ult.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 21:07:07
September 27 2014 21:03 GMT
#373
On September 28 2014 05:45 Goumindong wrote:
But he didn't run out with speed boost, the rumble ult canceled it. He jumped the rumble ult.

he didn't touch the rumble ult until outside of the platform he did have the homeguard speed for a full second. he did also heal 50% of his max hp in an instant due to homeguard. if he comes out at 40% hp instead of 80% rumble turns and kills him.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
September 27 2014 21:04 GMT
#374
On September 28 2014 05:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Bought 3 Mystery Skins. Blackthorne Morgana, Void Fizz, Lunar Princess Diana. Decent?

........ I got Noxus Poppy, Hextech Singed and Subertusk Sejuani...
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 21:15:16
September 27 2014 21:14 GMT
#375
I got Crimson Akali. Too bad I already had Blood Moon which is by far her best skin. And Desert Trooper Garen. Welp. I have around 3/4th of the champs though, including Teemo and Annie, so better cut my losses here and do as usual and wait for promos on interesting skins.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 27 2014 21:26 GMT
#376
On September 28 2014 06:03 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:45 Goumindong wrote:
But he didn't run out with speed boost, the rumble ult canceled it. He jumped the rumble ult.

he didn't touch the rumble ult until outside of the platform he did have the homeguard speed for a full second. he did also heal 50% of his max hp in an instant due to homeguard. if he comes out at 40% hp instead of 80% rumble turns and kills him.

you're assuming optimal play from soaz which is clearly a mistake.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 27 2014 21:30 GMT
#377
On September 28 2014 05:39 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 05:32 chalice wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 28 2014 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

Yeah, consider the # of fuck ups from fnatic in that play, the bug is hardly the reason fnatic lost.

Sure. but it directly prevented them from winning, can't completely just ignore that fact :p (not that I'm calling for a remake or anything)

but it didn't? doesn't matter if homeguard gave him an extra 500hp he shouldn't have had (which is debateable anyway) if soaz doesn't attack him.


meanwhile dota completely changes from the ground up, pushes the patch in the middle of tournament series and has a bugs list that goes well over 500+ hehe


More serious and impactful bugs have determined the fates of teams at TI such as the difference in how knockups interact with invulnerability (which is the only thing that allowed "The Play" at TI2 to happen) or Tinker's rearm being able to refresh the 3s disable on Blink Dagger from taking damage.
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DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
September 27 2014 21:34 GMT
#378
I just played a game of talon.

Its so frustrating to go in on enemy tristana, and she just jumps away and then kills you.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 27 2014 21:34 GMT
#379
On September 28 2014 05:43 Terranasaur wrote:
Bought 3 Mystery Skins. Blackthorne Morgana, Void Fizz, Lunar Princess Diana. Decent?


Blackthorne best Morgana skin (EXCEPT KERRIGAN MORGANA!), Void Fizz sucks (Urf Fizz best Fizz), Lunar Princess Diana really really nice
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 27 2014 21:48 GMT
#380
I got mecha aatrox, ppziggs, and magnificent tf


Pretty happy :D
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