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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:39:59
September 27 2014 14:39 GMT
#341
On September 27 2014 23:06 Disengaged wrote:
Well, I hear the voice for the new Sion and after the first word I recognize the voice immediately. Its the guy who voiced Sindri from dawn of war and other characters from the series.

I like him already just because of the voice actor

I don't think the voice fits him its too... generic. most LoL voices at least try to be non generic sions is too typical. nothing against the voice actor, because its not like he can change what they were asking from him or the writing

but uhh yeah. Olaf is interesting. He's like THE character that would want swiftness boots and alacrity, but the boots just don't help him when he needs it apart from the speed. the soft cap is too close to the standard values ever since they made the change to up everyones base speed and weaken t1 boots.why they didn't raise the soft cap with that is beyond me. raising that soft cap would make ghost and a lot of melee bit stronger. as well as removing some of the movespeed off of PD/Shiv.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:53:43
September 27 2014 14:50 GMT
#342
I main GP and yeah the new ulti is gonna be better in almost every way except for those rare luck kills, but the new sound and animation is just so boring. Instead of an actual random cannon BARRAGE you get seven synchronous hits, which is way less fun.

I actually don't understand why they felt they had to change the animation. At all.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 14:57:17
September 27 2014 14:54 GMT
#343
I got carried last game by GP mid, he owned Soraka and roamed like a crazy dude. I used to play GP back then when Warmogs/Atma was new meta.

Edit : Also Blitzcrank texture update, so lovely.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 27 2014 15:06 GMT
#344
Yeah, the voice isn't too particular, and I get the "hunger" theme between movement and attack quotes, but I think movement doesn't enphasise the difference enough. Plus the whole trailing but aggressive voice doesn't fit him that well I think. Feels generic dude threatening you. It's also super close to Renekton's in tone.

His quotes for E are meh too, ironically when he's supposed to "roar" they're less noisy and impactful than his standard quotes. On the other hand ult quotes are cool, although again, too "quiet" in comparison to the rest even though it's him yelling on top of his lungs.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
September 27 2014 15:10 GMT
#345
Where I can see new GP utli and blitz update?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 15:12:56
September 27 2014 15:12 GMT
#346
On September 28 2014 00:10 M2 wrote:
Where I can see new GP utli and blitz update?

www.surrenderat20.net
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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 27 2014 15:48 GMT
#347
yo wtf how do u keep hp in aram as soraka

my hp...
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 27 2014 17:28 GMT
#348
lol so many rammus junglers on streams right now, inb4 fotm because shook won 1 game
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2014 18:11 GMT
#349
Damn, sorta sad they're thinking about changing akali's shroud. I liked building warmogs on her as a single defensive item since she got so much free resist from shroud.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 27 2014 18:12 GMT
#350
Rammus has always been really good. Remember he DID get nerfed a bit back on his E.

Just go W Q E W E R then R > E > W > Q and you will farm surprisingly fast while being a huge, constant threat.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 18:58:37
September 27 2014 18:58 GMT
#351
On September 27 2014 20:28 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 17:51 Gahlo wrote:
On September 27 2014 16:22 cLutZ wrote:
They intentionally changed Olaf away from that because voyboy scared them, or something (not that he wasn't op). But new Olaf is hard to build, build a comp around, and use ideally for sure.

Yeah, Voyboy scared them with a doublekill. Right. It had absolutely nothing to do with him being 1st pick/ban in tournaments for literally months.


Well that was only when Warmogs was OP. They gutted him when it was more a case of the itemization being too strong and now he's never been seen since.


I mean he was objectively too strong as well (Hat tip Gahlo, I didnt say he didn't need nerfs). The problem I was addressing is they decided that the very concept that he became a hard to kill, reliable, diver was untenable.

To make a modern-day analogy, IE and Tristana are very strong. The Olaf solution would be to half the AS boost on her Q, make W only reset on kills (not assists), and lowering her base stats. Then after an IE nerf that would make her normal form strong, but reasonable, and a few months, you decide she needs a "rework" in which you change WER to AD scaling and change her passive to an AS increase per level, because range is "toxic", or something.

And even then, the reworked kit would make more sense than new Olaf.
Freeeeeeedom
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 27 2014 19:37 GMT
#352
Can Riot get rid of that retard Nick Allen already?

soaz could have ended the game right then and there if Khazix homeguard didnt bug. Khazix got in combat at the last splitsecond of his recall (got hit by kogmaw ult, had those vision eyes on him in fountain) but HG kicked in and gave him 1k hp and massive movement speed boost to stop rumble.

What the patch notes say: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-45-notes#patch-boot-enchantments2 ( Activation delay 8 seconds out of combat ⇒ 6 seconds out of combat )

What fucktard says:


I never thought I could hate a person on the internet as much as that cumdumpster. Holy fuck. And I don't even like FNC. But hey, Aatrox healed once after 2 AA instead of 3, better remake that! While theyre at it they should fine reddit as a company 100,000,000 dollars for allowing such slanderous accusations to be posted on their page.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 19:41:45
September 27 2014 19:40 GMT
#353
On September 28 2014 04:37 Celial wrote:
Can Riot get rid of that retard Nick Allen already?

soaz could have ended the game right then and there if Khazix homeguard didnt bug. Khazix got in combat at the last splitsecond of his recall (got hit by kogmaw ult, had those vision eyes on him in fountain) but HG kicked in and gave him 1k hp and massive movement speed boost to stop rumble.

What the patch notes say: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-45-notes#patch-boot-enchantments2 ( Activation delay 8 seconds out of combat ⇒ 6 seconds out of combat )

What fucktard says: https://twitter.com/RiotNickAllen/status/515899973838176256

I never thought I could hate a person on the internet as much as that cumdumpster. Holy fuck. And I don't even like FNC. But hey, Aatrox healed once after 2 AA instead of 3, better remake that! While theyre at it they should fine reddit as a company 100,000,000 dollars for allowing such slanderous accusations to be posted on their page.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Homeguard


Bonus Movement Speed and regeneration are disabled for 6 seconds upon dealing or taking damage.


I guess combat is defined as dealing damage or taking damage. So Nick isn't wrong here.
liftlift > tsm
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
September 27 2014 19:42 GMT
#354
anyone still playing azir? i tried a bunch of different things, and kinda went down a few questionable paths (mainly because if you get ahead at my level it doesnt matter what you build). this build though I consistently do well with. 6-0-6, 14-4-20, 2-1-4 (20 min surrender win), 7-0-6 in the 4 azir games i have in my match history.

the only really important thing to get from runes is 5% cdr, and the attack speed helps with last hitting early game. this rune page is probably not ideal, but its what ive been using. i will probably adjust it, with flat cdr, or consider the cdr mastery.

as reds
armor or hp yellow
mres or ap blue
ap and 1 scaling cdr quint

21/9/0, take the attack speed mastery.

rush athene's and lucidity boots. then get either zhonyas or dcap depending on if you need the defense from zhonyas. void staff, rylais late game.

the reason why i prefer this style over nashors is the power spikes come much earlier. it felt to me like nashor's needed 3 completed items to start doing noticeable damage. with just athene's, lucidity, and NLR you get a huge powerspike that keeps ramping up with each item.

it took a lot of games to get used to his combo (canceling the soldier attack animation with q can increase your damage/kiting/chasing potential quite a bit), how his ult behaves, and the quirks of using e. once you do though he is quite strong.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2014 19:42 GMT
#355
The last 0.5 seconds of a recall you can do anything to that champ and it doesn't matter. That's how the game has been for who knows how long. So it doesn't matter if homeguard is meant to deactivate on damage or being in combat since neither applies as that magic grace period of the recall is active
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 19:50:00
September 27 2014 19:45 GMT
#356
On September 28 2014 04:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 04:37 Celial wrote:
Can Riot get rid of that retard Nick Allen already?

soaz could have ended the game right then and there if Khazix homeguard didnt bug. Khazix got in combat at the last splitsecond of his recall (got hit by kogmaw ult, had those vision eyes on him in fountain) but HG kicked in and gave him 1k hp and massive movement speed boost to stop rumble.

What the patch notes say: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-45-notes#patch-boot-enchantments2 ( Activation delay 8 seconds out of combat ⇒ 6 seconds out of combat )

What fucktard says: https://twitter.com/RiotNickAllen/status/515899973838176256

I never thought I could hate a person on the internet as much as that cumdumpster. Holy fuck. And I don't even like FNC. But hey, Aatrox healed once after 2 AA instead of 3, better remake that! While theyre at it they should fine reddit as a company 100,000,000 dollars for allowing such slanderous accusations to be posted on their page.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Homeguard


Show nested quote +
Bonus Movement Speed and regeneration are disabled for 6 seconds upon dealing or taking damage.


I guess combat is defined as dealing damage or taking damage. So Nick isn't wrong here.


Reddit detectives did some CSI level shit and figured out that Kha took a few points of damage

Also, the only thing recall doesnt do is cancel. On occasion you are able to die in your fountain if you get hit by a strong DoT in that last split second. Every other state is applied as it should.

Also, this.

Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 27 2014 19:50 GMT
#357
I'd be wary of listening to Reddit, especially as Maw shield is larger than Kog's base damage even without accounting for MR.
Also it wouldn't matter because Kha'Zix didn't regen 1k HP or something silly like that, and the only difference it would have made was if Rumble tried to kill him, which he didn't.
The speed boost? Rumbled ulted the fountain, dealing damage to Kha'Zix and immediatly deactivating the speed boost and regeneration. Kha'Zix just jumped to get out of it and land on Rumble.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 19:52:39
September 27 2014 19:50 GMT
#358
On September 28 2014 04:42 Numy wrote:
The last 0.5 seconds of a recall you can do anything to that champ and it doesn't matter. That's how the game has been for who knows how long. So it doesn't matter if homeguard is meant to deactivate on damage or being in combat since neither applies as that magic grace period of the recall is active

recall is still stopped in the last .5 sec if you cc them.

interesting on the recall bit, i wonder if that's because recall doesn't register it as combat damage in that last .5 sec?
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 27 2014 19:52 GMT
#359
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#360
On September 28 2014 04:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I cant believe people are tunnel-visioned so hard on some psuedo-bug and not the fact that Fnatic made many more impactful mistakes that game. They didn't deserve to win, and even then at the nexus had a few things they could have done to win. Soaz walked into isolation range and had poor autoattack spacing. Who gives a shit about homeguards.

I mean, they could have played better and still won, but you can't just claim they don't deserve to win because they made poor choices after the bug. Also again idk if it's a "bug," I just think it's the way Homeguard is coded to work after a recall (which at least goes against our expectations as players)
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