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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 28 2014 05:25 GMT
#401
On September 28 2014 13:40 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 13:31 yamato77 wrote:
Why is healing toxic?

wtf


No counter play, anti-fun, doesn't "feel good," etc.


But there is counterplay. Hit the Raka and they can't heal.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 28 2014 07:16 GMT
#402
On September 28 2014 14:25 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 13:40 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 28 2014 13:31 yamato77 wrote:
Why is healing toxic?

wtf


No counter play, anti-fun, doesn't "feel good," etc.


But there is counterplay. Hit the Raka and they can't heal.


Roka buys flask and/or 5 HP pots every back. That is a lot of hitting Roma you have to do.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 07:27:00
September 28 2014 07:26 GMT
#403
On September 28 2014 16:16 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 14:25 iCanada wrote:
On September 28 2014 13:40 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 28 2014 13:31 yamato77 wrote:
Why is healing toxic?

wtf


No counter play, anti-fun, doesn't "feel good," etc.


But there is counterplay. Hit the Raka and they can't heal.


Roka buys flask and/or 5 HP pots every back. That is a lot of hitting Roma you have to do.


or you know she just lands her Q which has a pretty huge AoE(especially when in lane)
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 28 2014 08:24 GMT
#404
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 10:37:40
September 28 2014 08:58 GMT
#405
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?


lolesports twitter posts the post-game stat screen after the games are finished. Here is one example:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/516144365333663744
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
September 28 2014 09:01 GMT
#406
No way to see runes in there though ?
I got five reasons for you to shut up
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:02:26
September 28 2014 09:02 GMT
#407
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?

Reddit has a complete list of post-match stats http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/wiki/wcsurvivalguide2014#wiki_group_stage_1_.28taipei.2C_taiwan.29

There is the "player builds" tab.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 28 2014 09:10 GMT
#408
On September 28 2014 18:01 The_Unseen wrote:
No way to see runes in there though ?


Click the link, and check the players build tab.. It's a match history page like any other. Nothing is hidden.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 28 2014 09:28 GMT
#409
On September 28 2014 17:58 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?


lolesports twitter posts the post-game stat screen after the games are finished. Here is one example:



Thank you!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
September 28 2014 09:33 GMT
#410
On September 28 2014 17:58 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?


lolesports twitter posts the post-game stat screen after the games are finished. Here is one example:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/516144365333663744

Spoiler that please.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 28 2014 09:38 GMT
#411
On September 28 2014 18:33 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 17:58 ketchup wrote:
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?


lolesports twitter posts the post-game stat screen after the games are finished. Here is one example:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/516144365333663744

Spoiler that please.


Like kabum would win or what?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11626 Posts
September 28 2014 10:15 GMT
#412
On September 28 2014 13:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 13:31 yamato77 wrote:
Why is healing toxic?

wtf

look up cancer, it's literally uncontrollable healing.


Cancer isn't toxic, though. It's bad, but in another way.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2014 10:32 GMT
#413
The "issue" with Soraka currently is her combination of self-healing + self-peel. The slow on Q makes it so if you try to get to her, that + E makes it hard to stick to her, and the healing makes it hard to get her unless you straight-up burst her.

Later on, a bunch of comps won't really care if you burn your initiation on the support while the other 4 are healthy and your stuff is on cd. So even if you can kill Soraka, it's not easy, and it doesn't necessarily reduce the base power of the enemy comp, so if you get out of position to do it it's bad for you.
Her passive is... weird. Seeing a Soraka with mobis running at ~500 MS to a low health ally is pretty surprising the first time.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 28 2014 10:39 GMT
#414
On September 28 2014 18:33 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 17:58 ketchup wrote:
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?


lolesports twitter posts the post-game stat screen after the games are finished. Here is one example:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/516144365333663744

Spoiler that please.


My bad. It's spoilered now.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
September 28 2014 11:49 GMT
#415
On September 28 2014 18:38 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:33 Gahlo wrote:
On September 28 2014 17:58 ketchup wrote:
On September 28 2014 17:24 zodde wrote:
I still think going for soraka is the way to go. She really can't sustain enough with Q, especially if she throws a heal now and then on her adc. Dodging her Q is also counterplay, without it she can't sustain her heal for very long (pots or no pots).

Does anyone know if you can check up what runes and masteries the players are using in worlds?


lolesports twitter posts the post-game stat screen after the games are finished. Here is one example:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/516144365333663744

Spoiler that please.


Like kabum would win or what?

You've been here long enough to know results should be spoiler tagged outside of LR threads for current or recent tournaments.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 28 2014 15:30 GMT
#416
On September 28 2014 19:32 Alaric wrote:
The "issue" with Soraka currently is her combination of self-healing + self-peel. The slow on Q makes it so if you try to get to her, that + E makes it hard to stick to her, and the healing makes it hard to get her unless you straight-up burst her.

Later on, a bunch of comps won't really care if you burn your initiation on the support while the other 4 are healthy and your stuff is on cd. So even if you can kill Soraka, it's not easy, and it doesn't necessarily reduce the base power of the enemy comp, so if you get out of position to do it it's bad for you.
Her passive is... weird. Seeing a Soraka with mobis running at ~500 MS to a low health ally is pretty surprising the first time.

Her MS passive is the best thing about her. Freaking combat medic.
Whether or not she's good or OP, this is probably the best rework Riot had done. She's really fun, and she feels like a well-made champion now.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 28 2014 16:07 GMT
#417
I rename myself to ambulance driver and riot remake soraka and give her that passive.I think I found my new main.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 28 2014 16:13 GMT
#418
On September 29 2014 01:07 nafta wrote:
I rename myself to ambulance driver and riot remake soraka and give her that passive.I think I found my new main.

Rename yourself, AmbulanceSimulator2014
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 28 2014 16:18 GMT
#419
No ip left and no $$$ for rp .
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 28 2014 16:22 GMT
#420
Why does Gorilla run 3x attack speed reds on thresh?
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