EPT[Patch 4.16] Azir General Discussion - Page 24
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Sufficiency
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AsnSensation
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kongoline
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:59 Sufficiency wrote: That's strong? She and akali had the strongest lvl 6 at the time for mid. Of course this was a time before we had shit like syndra. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:40 Sufficiency wrote: Kat did get nerfed with DFG. She was practically the only one who got affected by the nerf. Veigar  his ult CD and DFG CD no longer line up. It effectively puts his combo on a 90 second CD unless you're so far ahead you don't need to. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On September 13 2014 02:21 Inflicted wrote: I don't think so. Hai's been averaging 6.2 deaths a game. Wins are wins. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Old Kat's 6 depended on if the opposing mid laner can stop her R or not. | ||
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Sufficiency
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Some champions die more often in winning games than others. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 13 2014 02:05 Alaric wrote: Hey guys. Remember tank top lane Katarina? Yeah. That was post-rework. So before you say she's garbage, remember she was broken right after. x) Also what utility did old Kat have? Grievous wounds on WQ? She has it on ult, so if it's about applying it to the enemy team it's basically the same (she doesn't have enough range on Q to apply it in sieges without risk anyway). I don't judge success of reworks by how strong they make a character. karmas rework was one of the biggest failures in my eyes despite improving her power level. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 13 2014 02:41 PrinceXizor wrote: I don't judge success of reworks by how strong they make a character. karmas rework was one of the biggest failures in my eyes despite improving her power level. This a billion times. Old karma's kit was really cool. | ||
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PrinceXizor
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On September 13 2014 02:44 wei2coolman wrote: This a billion times. Old karma's kit was really cool. No, her kit was dumb because nobody knew how to play with it. | ||
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krndandaman
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Sufficiency
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On September 13 2014 03:03 Sufficiency wrote: Which is moot because no one has that kind of data. One could go to op.gg, download all the replays, watch them, and record the results. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On September 13 2014 02:47 Gahlo wrote: No, her kit was dumb because nobody knew how to play with it. that doesn't justify a complete change imo | ||
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Oh shit, I'm totally buying this Jarvan <3 Edit : Also I'm going to mass spam Soraka games once her rework is live ! | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 13 2014 01:06 Sufficiency wrote: Wait. Are you saying the current Nidalee has less counterplay than the old AP Nidalee? Of course. Old nidalee you could: punish pre6, deny blues, siege her towers (poor waveclear), engage on her team (theoretically, because are was strongest during a meta that generally lacked engage), and dodge spears. She still has bad clear, and mediocre team fight, but is never really weak in 1v1 or 2v2 anymore, isn't mana reliant, and still escapes forever. She is just worse in the poke situations she used to excel in, which doesn't matter because new nidalee doesn't need to or try to be in those situations. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 13 2014 03:05 Gahlo wrote: One could go to op.gg, download all the replays, watch them, and record the results. I volunteer you to do it. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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