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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 13 2014 04:06 Gahlo wrote: Why? My stance is Hai is better than people think and the fact that he got to Challenger with relative ease supports that.  Ambition top 5 kr challengers.lol. | ||
IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
I think hai is a player who if you make any kind of mistakes early he will punish them much harder then other mids but if he doesn't get zed or falls behind c9 sacrifices so much to have him catch up. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On September 13 2014 05:11 krndandaman wrote: yeah soloq and team lol are very different. hai was never a slouch in soloq. remember when they were quantic and they were hyped for having like 4 out of 5 players in top 10 soloq? hai was #1 then iirc. Yea, such a shame none of those players worked out professionally. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 13 2014 06:40 Alaric wrote: Wowowow, more Viktor nerfs, reducing the laser's projectile speed. Yeah sure. That rework had potential but if they just keep hitting his numbers with the bat (when only his raw damage was good to begin with) with barely some range QoL to compensate, he's going to get shat on so much. The problem seems to be that they're getting a lot of feedback from Viktor players who never played viktor well. And so there are a lot of "OMG i do so much damage when i have six items" but very little understanding that its actually a power reduction when necessary. SO they're just cutting his damage on PBE and making shit even harder to land  | ||
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Zizoz
United States232 Posts
On September 13 2014 00:59 cLutZ wrote: Gragas and Nidalee reworks continue to be failures. The reasons for those reworks basically boiled down to that they lacked "counterplay" however you defined that term. However, when you look at post-rework Nidalee and Gragas, they are even harder to counterplay. You can't even dodge spears, gank early, or push into Nidalee now to "counterplay" her the counterplay is to be able to out-brute-force her and CC the shit out of her. Old Gragas was super strong/op, but post nerf-pre rework Gragas was much more balanced than when he had the free W and super oppressive pushing(for toplane, against other melee champs). Now after the nerfs is fairly pedestrian. Its because the reworked Q did provide counterplay, but that counterplay is stupid its basically "don't stand on his ticking timebomb". Its the same reason the people only use Janna tornado for disengage, because charging skillshots (when your opponents know which way you are aiming, Varus isn't bad) is just a stupid mechanic. Wait, you can tell which way a Janna tornado is aiming? I legitimately didn't know that if so. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 13 2014 06:55 Zizoz wrote: Wait, you can tell which way a Janna tornado is aiming? I legitimately didn't know that if so. You can't, but if you can't dodge it knowing its charging you've got more problems than which way the tornado is going | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On September 13 2014 06:55 Zizoz wrote: Wait, you can tell which way a Janna tornado is aiming? I legitimately didn't know that if so. No, but it's easy to dodge which makes it a crappy offensive move (it's strong defensively most the time), which is the same with gragas q, but gragas isn't supposed to be that way considering what they apparently want him to be. | ||
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ItsFunToLose
United States776 Posts
would kill for a change like this | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
ban katarina always or lose | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On September 13 2014 00:59 cLutZ wrote: Gragas and Nidalee reworks continue to be failures. The reasons for those reworks basically boiled down to that they lacked "counterplay" however you defined that term. However, when you look at post-rework Nidalee and Gragas, they are even harder to counterplay. You can't even dodge spears, gank early, or push into Nidalee now to "counterplay" her the counterplay is to be able to out-brute-force her and CC the shit out of her. Old Gragas was super strong/op, but post nerf-pre rework Gragas was much more balanced than when he had the free W and super oppressive pushing(for toplane, against other melee champs). Now after the nerfs is fairly pedestrian. Its because the reworked Q did provide counterplay, but that counterplay is stupid its basically "don't stand on his ticking timebomb". Its the same reason the people only use Janna tornado for disengage, because charging skillshots (when your opponents know which way you are aiming, Varus isn't bad) is just a stupid mechanic. I feel like removing the ability to go jewplank, rip hog/philo killed gangplank tbh. the deny removal didnt help very much either. the passive change was a def buff(as seen when he was a top level jungle for the time) | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On September 13 2014 03:28 lilwisper wrote: I read that and it says Fiora is oppresive. Did I miss something? im only silver, but since i started playing again a few weeks ago, fiora has been my top jungle pick. i didnt think anyone else noticed or cared about fiora tho. kinda sad to see her nerfed. I think in low-elo where people dont understand how to play against her, she can be a bit much. and by a bit much i mean my average score is 14-2-5, at least 2 games ive played in the last week or 2 Ive had 25 kills. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
As for Viktor I'd have been fine with augments a bit more costly if needed, and cost-ineffective, but granting real changes to hit kit, that are meaningful (for example W augment doesn't give more damage or anything, so it's kind of a sunk cost, but if it increases the range and/or radius of W, then you've got a lot more zone control and you can leverage it for easier objectives and get some more gold for actual stats). Instead they started with a huge-ass stats stick that doesn't grant much aside from it, typically what we should avoid to make Viktor interesting. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 13 2014 06:22 PrinceXizor wrote: ranked queue exists on different servers than normals right? just played a placement match on my smurf and i went from 50 to 800 ping regularly. but normals i've never had a spike. so following up, it seems like NA super unstable? 5 games with DC/lag spikes in a row. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 13 2014 07:38 FinestHour wrote: theres a ban phase ban katarina always or lose Can you get the same champion on both teams? | ||
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