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What I don't get is why they thought they had to change Viktor's E augment in the first place...
It was identified by pretty much every one as Viktor. You know what, it's not even that they are nerfing it, it's that they have to change it for the sake of changing it. Honestly, if they thought it was too strong that he could stall games out hard with E, or farm out till his late game with E why didn't they just lower the damage? Instead now we have this laser which doesn't feel like a death laser, it feels like a laser with done six year old running behind it throwing snaps at the ground.
Psyuoooo! Snap snap snap snap! It feels so wrong to me. Kills the visceral feel of E for me. Sounds so chinsy.
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On September 13 2014 02:08 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 02:05 Alaric wrote:
Hey guys.
Remember tank top lane Katarina?
Yeah. That was post-rework. So before you say she's garbage, remember she was broken right after. x) Also what utility did old Kat have? Grievous wounds on WQ? She has it on ult, so if it's about applying it to the enemy team it's basically the same (she doesn't have enough range on Q to apply it in sieges without risk anyway). tank kat was better pre-rework actually when her ult actually had base damage. the reason it surfaced again after the rework was cause regular mid kat was so garbage for a while. anyways the point being that after the rework, kat and many other champions ended up off worse mechanically than the were, but riot changed too much too quickly.
No. Because she didn't have W, pre-rework.
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I read that and it says Fiora is oppresive. Did I miss something?
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On September 13 2014 03:27 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 02:08 Frolossus wrote:On September 13 2014 02:05 Alaric wrote:
Hey guys.
Remember tank top lane Katarina?
Yeah. That was post-rework. So before you say she's garbage, remember she was broken right after. x) Also what utility did old Kat have? Grievous wounds on WQ? She has it on ult, so if it's about applying it to the enemy team it's basically the same (she doesn't have enough range on Q to apply it in sieges without risk anyway). tank kat was better pre-rework actually when her ult actually had base damage. the reason it surfaced again after the rework was cause regular mid kat was so garbage for a while. anyways the point being that after the rework, kat and many other champions ended up off worse mechanically than the were, but riot changed too much too quickly. No. Because she didn't have W, pre-rework.
actually her W accounted for something like 1/4 of her damage
and it was a healing debuff/damage mitigation on command
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It was also a 15+s cooldown spell that had to be used in conjunction with another. While Katarina did nothing but spam W at you in top lane, using the MS buff to chase you or evade retaliation, abusing the 4s cd and her manaless status. She combo'd that with Sunfire as first item.
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where od i go to complain about ascension
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On September 13 2014 03:34 Alaric wrote:
It was also a 15+s cooldown spell that had to be used in conjunction with another. While Katarina did nothing but spam W at you in top lane, using the MS buff to chase you or evade retaliation, abusing the 4s cd and her manaless status. She combo'd that with Sunfire as first item.
and once laning phase ended
she was worthless cause her ult didn't do any damage
killer instinct was like 400+ free ult damage as well as free Q and auto attack damage
the addition of the mark mechanic on Q, removal of KI, and changes to how her Q bounce + reduction from 6 bounces at level one to 5 at max level as well removal of damage scaling from shunpo and a bunch of other things made her a lot worse after the rework.
shunpo used to hit harder than her current QW combo
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Guys when do u think its reasonable to start maining one role and advance with it. I mean my supporting is somehow a class above all my other roles, I can play 6-7 supports on good level, I can counter their bot lane, I know synergies between supports and adcs, build orders etc. and playing support I feel that I am platinum level, because when I almost stopped playing the other roles I went from gold 4 to 1 fairly fast and soon I am sure I ll hit plat. However, on my other roles I am definitely no higher than gold 3, between 5 and 3 I would assume.
So my question is: Is it fair (whatever that means) to abuse one role to advance so early. I know pro players, challengers and even diamonds main one role, but they can hit diamond with any role if they want, so whenever they cannot play they role they do not burden their team, while I think I will when I hit platinum playing only one role
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Guess Riot employees got a new memo which said "counterplay" a lot.
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reading posts from riot is like watching a microsoft E3 conference. buzzwords and no substance.
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On September 13 2014 03:47 M2 wrote:
Guys when do u think its reasonable to start maining one role and advance with it. I mean my supporting is somehow a class above all my other roles, I can play 6-7 supports on good level, I can counter their bot lane, I know synergies between supports and adcs, build orders etc. and playing support I feel that I am platinum level, because when I almost stopped playing the other roles I went from gold 4 to 1 fairly fast and soon I am sure I ll hit plat. However, on my other roles I am definitely no higher than gold 3, between 5 and 3 I would assume.
So my question is: Is it fair (whatever that means) to abuse one role to advance so early. I know pro players, challengers and even diamonds main one role, but they can hit diamond with any role if they want, so whenever they cannot play they role they do not burden their team, while I think I will when I hit platinum playing only one role
Whenever you want. As you climb higher you'll get skills applicable to other roles.
Just play what you like to play.
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On September 13 2014 03:24 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 03:05 Gahlo wrote:On September 13 2014 03:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Which is moot because no one has that kind of data. One could go to op.gg, download all the replays, watch them, and record the results. I volunteer you to do it.
Why? My stance is Hai is better than people think and the fact that he got to Challenger with relative ease supports that. 
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On September 13 2014 04:06 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 03:24 Sufficiency wrote:On September 13 2014 03:05 Gahlo wrote:On September 13 2014 03:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Which is moot because no one has that kind of data. One could go to op.gg, download all the replays, watch them, and record the results. I volunteer you to do it. Why? My stance is Hai is better than people think and the fact that he got to Challenger with relative ease supports that.
No the issue is that you proposed a solution that is unfeasible. An unfeasible solution is a bad solution. No one will watch 200 of his replays and count number of deaths.
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On September 13 2014 03:26 iCanada wrote:
What I don't get is why they thought they had to change Viktor's E augment in the first place...
It was identified by pretty much every one as Viktor. You know what, it's not even that they are nerfing it, it's that they have to change it for the sake of changing it. Honestly, if they thought it was too strong that he could stall games out hard with E, or farm out till his late game with E why didn't they just lower the damage? Instead now we have this laser which doesn't feel like a death laser, it feels like a laser with done six year old running behind it throwing snaps at the ground.
Psyuoooo! Snap snap snap snap! It feels so wrong to me. Kills the visceral feel of E for me. Sounds so chinsy.
And frankly if you're concerned about too much wave clear Viktor's E is probably the last thing you should be killing. But really, it was because reasons
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On September 13 2014 04:15 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:06 Gahlo wrote:On September 13 2014 03:24 Sufficiency wrote:On September 13 2014 03:05 Gahlo wrote:On September 13 2014 03:03 Sufficiency wrote:
Which is moot because no one has that kind of data. One could go to op.gg, download all the replays, watch them, and record the results. I volunteer you to do it. Why? My stance is Hai is better than people think and the fact that he got to Challenger with relative ease supports that. No the issue is that you proposed a solution that is unfeasible. An unfeasible solution is a bad solution. No one will watch 200 of his replays and count number of deaths.
1. Hai doesn't have 200 games on that account.
2. Even if it did, the ones farthest in the past would have little relevance to his level of player as opposed to his current rank.
3. OP.GG only shows the last 20 games.
You said nobody had that kind of data, which is wrong because op.gg has the replays. If somebody wanted to, they could very easily find out his laning KDA. Would it take time? Obviously, maybe 2-3 hours if they were distracted. Unfeasible? Not at all. Saying "he dies a lot" is a bad excuse when trying to measure a laner's individual skill if a person refuses to actually review evidence of his laning.
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whats this? i saw something about poppy being op? am i going crazy and seeing things?
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On September 13 2014 04:33 MindBreaker wrote:
whats this? i saw something about poppy being op? am i going crazy and seeing things?
Only a matter of time. Leagues come full circle. Zilean, tristana are picks and Poppy is a niche terror.
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On September 13 2014 04:36 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:33 MindBreaker wrote:
whats this? i saw something about poppy being op? am i going crazy and seeing things? Only a matter of time. Leagues come full circle. Zilean, tristana are picks and Poppy is a niche terror.
I can't wait to use the "After 10,000 bans...." video again.
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Ah yes. its pretty impressive how hai was able to climb aaaaaalllll the way from diamond 3 mmr to challenger mmr in a bunch of games. :/
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What's the reason Yorick is disabled in Ascension? A bug with his ult I assume, like if someone revived by his ult kills Xerath?
Edit: I just saw Zyra kill Xerath with her passive, the ascension revived her. Must be that.
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