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InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
September 08 2014 04:01 GMT
#1401
On September 08 2014 12:57 IMoperator wrote:
hai is rekting korean solo queue atm: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=KvotheKelsier


"Why are you playing jungle Garen?"

"Hai did it in Korea and won!"

Coming to a queue near you~
Call me Sunday
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 08 2014 04:20 GMT
#1402
Hmm..NA junglers all seem really lackluster. Amazing seems rather nondescript when he's not on Elise. NoName would be good, except his Lee Sin is so goddamn awful it's embarassing. Dexter hasn't been playing well the second half of the split. Same with Crumbz. IWD is doing pretty well lately, as is Helios, but I'm hesitant to put them near the top of the list.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
September 08 2014 04:33 GMT
#1403
You guys make it sound like Meteos is in his own tier, and everyone else seems to randomly rotate between "meh" and "awful" tiers by the minute.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#1404
On September 08 2014 13:33 TheHumanSensation wrote:
You guys make it sound like Meteos is in his own tier, and everyone else seems to randomly rotate between "meh" and "awful" tiers by the minute.

Now that he doesn't have to play second support for Balls in the first 5 minutes of every game again, he is.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
September 08 2014 04:37 GMT
#1405
On September 08 2014 13:33 TheHumanSensation wrote:
You guys make it sound like Meteos is in his own tier, and everyone else seems to randomly rotate between "meh" and "awful" tiers by the minute.


In terms of NA junglers, Meteos has either been "good" or "consistent" tier, which when the previous best NA jungler was TheOddOne (who fell off hard near end of s4 spring split) he's basically alone at the top. NA has next to no talent in the jungle position, and I'd argue that mid and top are also pretty lackluster in that talent pool as well.

My evidence for that is how the last few splits have gone, with teams importing tops and junglers to NA, TSM importing Bjerg to mid at the beginning of season 4, and that outside of Shiphtur, basically every other mid laner is "meh" or "awful" tier.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 08 2014 04:47 GMT
#1406
On September 08 2014 13:01 InfSunday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 12:57 IMoperator wrote:
hai is rekting korean solo queue atm: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=KvotheKelsier


"Why are you playing jungle Garen?"

"Hai did it in Korea and won!"

Coming to a queue near you~


I had a jungle Garen in one of my games a few days ago. It was not a fun experience.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 08 2014 04:53 GMT
#1407
On September 08 2014 13:33 TheHumanSensation wrote:
You guys make it sound like Meteos is in his own tier, and everyone else seems to randomly rotate between "meh" and "awful" tiers by the minute.

he sort of is though. That's partially because he's good, and mostly because everyone else sucks.
liftlift > tsm
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
September 08 2014 04:55 GMT
#1408
On September 08 2014 13:47 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 13:01 InfSunday wrote:
On September 08 2014 12:57 IMoperator wrote:
hai is rekting korean solo queue atm: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=KvotheKelsier


"Why are you playing jungle Garen?"

"Hai did it in Korea and won!"

Coming to a queue near you~


I had a jungle Garen in one of my games a few days ago. It was not a fun experience.


I don't even understand why someone would pick this, there's even weird stuff in the jungle that's better and more fun to play, like Fizz or Quinn.

Unless you really really feel like playing Garen, but then do a teambuilder and play him top for the sake of your teammates. :/
Call me Sunday
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 08 2014 05:03 GMT
#1409
On September 08 2014 13:55 InfSunday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 13:47 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 08 2014 13:01 InfSunday wrote:
On September 08 2014 12:57 IMoperator wrote:
hai is rekting korean solo queue atm: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=KvotheKelsier


"Why are you playing jungle Garen?"

"Hai did it in Korea and won!"

Coming to a queue near you~


I had a jungle Garen in one of my games a few days ago. It was not a fun experience.


I don't even understand why someone would pick this, there's even weird stuff in the jungle that's better and more fun to play, like Fizz or Quinn.

Unless you really really feel like playing Garen, but then do a teambuilder and play him top for the sake of your teammates. :/


Yeah, this was in ranked as well. At first I was like "Well ok, maybe this is just like his gimmick pick or something and he knows what he's doing." Nope, 2-8 record as Garen. Gets executed at double golems at one point.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 05:13:24
September 08 2014 05:09 GMT
#1410
From watching the NA LCS finals I'd say that Meteos is pretty clearly the best NA jungler. He was especially impressive in game 5 imo.

would people be interested in me analysing the games like I just did or was it just boring and uneducational
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 05:48:41
September 08 2014 05:40 GMT
#1411
On September 08 2014 14:09 Scip wrote:
From watching the NA LCS finals I'd say that Meteos is pretty clearly the best NA jungler. He was especially impressive in game 5 imo.

would people be interested in me analysing the games like I just did or was it just boring and uneducational

I was busy making letmelose uncomfortable in twitch chat. Would watch a past broadcast of it tomorrow though.
+ Show Spoiler [chat dump] +
Letmelose: i dunno
Letmelose: the most ground breaking thing a coach did
Letmelose: this year
Letmelose: is probably Prime Optimus' coach
Letmelose: who came up with the 4 v 0 meta
Arkniedemon: Was that really his idea?
Letmelose: yah
Gahlowake: I though the Dade/Pawn swap was pretty smart
Arkniedemon: that's actually crazy
Letmelose: a cheese to beat skt t1 s
Letmelose: dade pawn stuff
Letmelose: is more emotional/team vibe stuff imo
Arkniedemon: That actually makes me belive in the coaching thing. If they can shift the meta in a positive way, they are truly advancing the game
Letmelose: rather than swapping players based on strategy and champion pool interactions
Gahlowake: prime... you know you suck when you need to cheese to be SKTS
Letmelose: i actually like skt t1 s a lot
Letmelose: dont bad mouth my precious ezhoon
Arkniedemon: That;s what I mean in a sense that coaches should be changing the game. And maybe thats why the other regions aren't doing too well. Because their management doesnt understand how to change LoL in a way to benefit their players
Arkniedemon: SKT organization was awesome
Letmelose: he's like the froggen of kr
Arkniedemon: Loved both teams
Arkniedemon: had fun watching all their games
Letmelose: carrying his terribad top laner
Snaekticus93: lol god forbid alliance gets an irelia ban against them
Arkniedemon: hahahaa
Gahlowake: KT is best KT
Letmelose: wait
Snaekticus93: idk what they would do for their top lane
Arkniedemon: The irelia ban into the instant forfeight
Letmelose: gahlo
Letmelose: are u from tl?
Gahlowake: Finally noticed?
Letmelose: lol
Gahlowake: Letmelose senpai finally noticed me...
Letmelose: this is weird
Letmelose: first time i saw a tl member
Letmelose: on chat
Letmelose: or at least found one
Arkniedemon: what;s that?
Letmelose: oh it's just this site
Gahlowake: teamliquid
Letmelose: i go to
Letmelose: has some pretty informed posters
Gahlowake: And some...less
Letmelose: well
Letmelose: the awkwardness got to me
Letmelose: see you around gahlo
Letmelose: bye
Gahlowake: T_T


We were in talking for probably 15-20 minutes before that point.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 05:50:56
September 08 2014 05:50 GMT
#1412
On September 08 2014 14:09 Scip wrote:
From watching the NA LCS finals I'd say that Meteos is pretty clearly the best NA jungler. He was especially impressive in game 5 imo.

would people be interested in me analysing the games like I just did or was it just boring and uneducational


i caught glimpses of it. it was pretty cool from what i caught imo. will watch VOD tomorrow.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 08 2014 05:59 GMT
#1413
On September 08 2014 14:09 Scip wrote:
From watching the NA LCS finals I'd say that Meteos is pretty clearly the best NA jungler. He was especially impressive in game 5 imo.

would people be interested in me analysing the games like I just did or was it just boring and uneducational

Id watch just to hear ur pretty voice

and yeah noname's a dumbass
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 08 2014 06:17 GMT
#1414
On September 08 2014 14:09 Scip wrote:
From watching the NA LCS finals I'd say that Meteos is pretty clearly the best NA jungler. He was especially impressive in game 5 imo.

would people be interested in me analysing the games like I just did or was it just boring and uneducational

I really liked it.

When it worked.

For some reason everything was screwy for me on your last vid. Otherwise, I am all in, plus I hate riot casters.
Freeeeeeedom
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 08 2014 06:27 GMT
#1415
I am not sure why, the VoD seem fine all the way through. In what was was it screwy?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
September 08 2014 07:34 GMT
#1416
On September 08 2014 06:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 05:51 Kinie wrote:
On September 08 2014 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
IIRC it worked extremely well for cj cuz flame was such a beast with all that farm.


That's also because Flame has been the only good/consistent player on CJ Blaze since he joined them, and all of CJ's attempts to build around Flame have failed.

And if we are talking about top 3 NA players for their role, here's my list (in no order):

Top: Zion, Balls, Dyrus
Jungle: Meteos, Dexter, NoName
Mid: XWX, Bjergsen, Link
ADC: Dlift, Wildturtle, Sneaky
Support: Lemon, Aphro, Xpecial

Link? Does not compute. Remaining list invalid.

But seriously, I want to talk more about just diving the stupid Freezing AD Carry.

According to this list all clg players besides seraph are top 3 in their role.
Yet they finished behind dignitas, curse, lmq, c9 and tsm.

also lmao do you really think lemonnation is a good player ? He's probably in competition for the title of worse support player in the NA lcs with krepo. I don't doubt he has a very good understanding of strategies and pick and ban phase but his actual ingame skills are .......... questionable. That says a lot about how good sneaky is (hint : better than doublelift and wildturtle).
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 10:01:38
September 08 2014 09:44 GMT
#1417
On September 08 2014 13:01 InfSunday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 12:57 IMoperator wrote:
hai is rekting korean solo queue atm: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=KvotheKelsier


"Why are you playing jungle Garen?"

"Hai did it in Korea and won!"

Coming to a queue near you~

I did it too. Amusingly enough, it's not even that bad (I mean, I wouldn't make it work at high Gold level obv., but if even Darius can be jungled... ), and with the new golem spirit it's probably absurdly tanky with just 1-2 items.

Reminds me of TOO hitting 5.1k+ HP on Maokai with golem spirit, SV, warmogs, randuin's. It would have been scary if he didn't end up oom in 2 rotations and an ult and sat at almost 4k HP and no mana trudging after people.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 10:24:17
September 08 2014 10:22 GMT
#1418
On September 08 2014 14:03 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 13:55 InfSunday wrote:
On September 08 2014 13:47 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 08 2014 13:01 InfSunday wrote:
On September 08 2014 12:57 IMoperator wrote:
hai is rekting korean solo queue atm: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=KvotheKelsier


"Why are you playing jungle Garen?"

"Hai did it in Korea and won!"

Coming to a queue near you~


I had a jungle Garen in one of my games a few days ago. It was not a fun experience.


I don't even understand why someone would pick this, there's even weird stuff in the jungle that's better and more fun to play, like Fizz or Quinn.

Unless you really really feel like playing Garen, but then do a teambuilder and play him top for the sake of your teammates. :/


Yeah, this was in ranked as well. At first I was like "Well ok, maybe this is just like his gimmick pick or something and he knows what he's doing." Nope, 2-8 record as Garen. Gets executed at double golems at one point.


Jungle garen isn't that awful. I think he might be better than jungle fizz. I've played him a few times and done fine.

EDIT:
dude don't insult jungle Darius, he's like almost viable viable and can be really sick in certain situations
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 10:39:13
September 08 2014 10:37 GMT
#1419
Have you guys seen the Bing rewards RP thing?

http://www.bing.com/rewards/dashboard

basically Bing has a program where you can make an account and they give you points for searching on Bing every day (lol), you can use these points on $5 burger king giftcard, which you can then enter into the LoL client under purchase RP tab and redeem for RP.

You can make about a card a month. Which is insignificant, but it only takes like a minute a day to do (you can just go to pictures, search something, and click the suggested links at the top repeatedly). So if you don't like spending real money or just do it while watching a show or whatever it's kind of nice to have some extra RP to play with.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 08 2014 10:43 GMT
#1420
"Bing Rewards isn't available yet in your country or region."

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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