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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 07 2014 20:55 GMT
#1361
Eh. I wouldn't mind ranked Dominions myself, I don't really like playing normal games and I don't feel like jumping into tournaments just after reading few guides, I'd rather test myself on ranked ladder first. It's a funny post, but I can emphatize.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 07 2014 21:00 GMT
#1362
I think its funny.

Most people dont play Dominion not because rito doesn't support it, merely because most people just find Summoners Rift more fun. lol.

So so silly.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 07 2014 21:02 GMT
#1363
On September 08 2014 05:55 AlterKot wrote:
Eh. I wouldn't mind ranked Dominions myself, I don't really like playing normal games and I don't feel like jumping into tournaments just after reading few guides, I'd rather test myself on ranked ladder first. It's a funny post, but I can emphatize.

I get where he's coming from but the melodrama just takes the all the wind out of their sails, what was a legit point was buried under more melodramatic speeches than KLK
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 07 2014 21:03 GMT
#1364
to be honest the presence of a ranked treeline does make one wonder what the holdup is
Carrilord has arrived.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 07 2014 21:12 GMT
#1365
I really want to stress that NoName actually sucks ass. Don't buy into his weird-ass plays, hes a complete shitter.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
September 07 2014 21:22 GMT
#1366
I don't play a ton of Dominion, but I'd definitely play ranked Dominion if it existed.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 21:50:30
September 07 2014 21:38 GMT
#1367
On September 08 2014 06:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I really want to stress that NoName actually sucks ass. Don't buy into his weird-ass plays, hes a complete shitter.

His nunu and khazix are pretty good. His lee sin is complete and utter trash tho.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 07 2014 21:39 GMT
#1368
On September 08 2014 05:51 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
IIRC it worked extremely well for cj cuz flame was such a beast with all that farm.


That's also because Flame has been the only good/consistent player on CJ Blaze since he joined them, and all of CJ's attempts to build around Flame have failed.

And if we are talking about top 3 NA players for their role, here's my list (in no order):

Top: Zion, Balls, Dyrus
Jungle: Meteos, Dexter, NoName
Mid: XWX, Bjergsen, Link
ADC: Dlift, Wildturtle, Sneaky
Support: Lemon, Aphro, Xpecial

Link? Does not compute. Remaining list invalid.

But seriously, I want to talk more about just diving the stupid Freezing AD Carry.
Freeeeeeedom
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 21:52:34
September 07 2014 21:50 GMT
#1369
On September 08 2014 06:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 05:51 Kinie wrote:
On September 08 2014 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
IIRC it worked extremely well for cj cuz flame was such a beast with all that farm.


That's also because Flame has been the only good/consistent player on CJ Blaze since he joined them, and all of CJ's attempts to build around Flame have failed.

And if we are talking about top 3 NA players for their role, here's my list (in no order):

Top: Zion, Balls, Dyrus
Jungle: Meteos, Dexter, NoName
Mid: XWX, Bjergsen, Link
ADC: Dlift, Wildturtle, Sneaky
Support: Lemon, Aphro, Xpecial

Link? Does not compute. Remaining list invalid.

But seriously, I want to talk more about just diving the stupid Freezing AD Carry.


I'm an idiot, I was trying to remember who the mid laner for Dig was and thought it was Link, not Shiphtur. Edited the original post to reflect that.

And who else is a good/decent jungler in NA? I thought I was sort of being generous with Dexter, as NA has literally 1 good jungler (Meteos) IMO.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 07 2014 21:51 GMT
#1370
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/46517366#matches

15/5 :DDDD Ranked match, whoo!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 07 2014 21:56 GMT
#1371
On September 08 2014 05:51 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
IIRC it worked extremely well for cj cuz flame was such a beast with all that farm.


That's also because Flame has been the only good/consistent player on CJ Blaze since he joined them, and all of CJ's attempts to build around Flame have failed.

And if we are talking about top 3 NA players for their role, here's my list (in no order):

Top: Zion, Balls, Dyrus
Jungle: Meteos, Dexter, NoName
Mid: XWX, Bjergsen, Shiphtur
ADC: Dlift, Wildturtle, Sneaky
Support: Lemon, Aphro, Xpecial

I don't even think WT is even that good, at least this season. I would take RobertXLee and Vasili over WT. Both are ballsies without going full retard.

For jungle, outside of Meteos it's sort of hard to say how good the other junglers on the other NA teams are.

Support, not that many games from Lustboy, but boy has he been a fucking god. Aphro/Xpecial/Lustboy imo. Lemon doesn't have the same level of play making as these 3.

For Mid, it's Bjergsen>XWX>>others.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 07 2014 22:27 GMT
#1372
The AD carry doesn't have to freeze, and he doesn't have to be alone. He's just at his t1 with his duo laner, the freezing dude is the offlaner, under his inhibitor turret, and good luck going to dive him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 22:41:08
September 07 2014 22:40 GMT
#1373
Can't believe yall forgot about Altec. Actually lived up to his hype.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
September 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#1374
Altec is 4th on my list. And I can't have Lustboy on the list mainly due to not enough games in NA on him. Plus, he plays Nami so fucking well it's rediculous, but the moment it's banned or taken from him his champ pool seems to evaporate. But if he kept up that level of play all season, then he'd probably replace Xpecial in my top 3.

Vasili and RobertxLee are 4th and 5th to me, as sometimes the ham they deal can't be backed up by their team, where-as Turtle's ham is usually backed up by Bjerg or Lustboy.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 22:51:07
September 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#1375
On September 08 2014 07:40 ketchup wrote:
Can't believe yall forgot about Altec. Actually lived up to his hype.

He was shaky early on. He really did started coming into his own towards the end of the season though. RobertXLee still better.
On September 08 2014 07:48 Kinie wrote:
Altec is 4th on my list. And I can't have Lustboy on the list mainly due to not enough games in NA on him. Plus, he plays Nami so fucking well it's rediculous, but the moment it's banned or taken from him his champ pool seems to evaporate. But if he kept up that level of play all season, then he'd probably replace Xpecial in my top 3.

Vasili and RobertxLee are 4th and 5th to me, as sometimes the ham they deal can't be backed up by their team, where-as Turtle's ham is usually backed up by Bjerg or Lustboy.

Not really, watch TSM's run this playoff. Only like a quarter of the time did WT's stupid moves were backed by his teammates, most of the time he just dies, and Bjergsen is just so far ahead that he can make up for not having an ADC.
Plus, you're pretty much arguing that WT's good because his teammates are godly, which is a terrible reasoning for justifying how good WT is.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 07 2014 22:55 GMT
#1376
On September 08 2014 07:27 Alaric wrote:
The AD carry doesn't have to freeze, and he doesn't have to be alone. He's just at his t1 with his duo laner, the freezing dude is the offlaner, under his inhibitor turret, and good luck going to dive him.

...

You wouldn't 4v0 then. I mean, the goal is to prevent ADCs from freezing against you and the enemy support from roaming. Teams have been pretty bad at both, so you can't say, "well they just do x to counter you", but x is what you want them to do anyways...
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 23:23:09
September 07 2014 23:11 GMT
#1377
Just watched an Akali use Zhonya during Ahri's charm on Crumbzz's stream. Riot pls.
Edit: and in the same game a Zed ult'd while knocked-up. :')

^ one thing you forgot cLutz is that I was talking about how teams didn't react properly. Of course there are answers to it. But playing the way a 4v0 "will we push till the inhib?" was played against the "only get one turret, then stop them after they get 2" put you at a disadvantage, and western and SEA teams kept doing it and getting shat on.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 07 2014 23:38 GMT
#1378
No no. 4v0 as a reaction to a freeze. By the way, a freeze is telegraphed immediately so it's possible. A blind 4v0 is foolish, but if you see the freeze (this is mostly a dragon side strategy, if it's good at all), you then 4v0 the tower, take it and shove into t2. Then you can take t2 or peel (freeze broken) for a dragon.

Hell, half the time you could do that, have your top back and tp to tower before the wave hits your t1.

Look, I'm not a freaking mastermind, so scrims may show that teams can react faster than they have shown on lan, but kta punked some people doing that.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 07 2014 23:40 GMT
#1379
On September 08 2014 05:55 AlterKot wrote:
Eh. I wouldn't mind ranked Dominions myself, I don't really like playing normal games and I don't feel like jumping into tournaments just after reading few guides, I'd rather test myself on ranked ladder first. It's a funny post, but I can emphatize.


Ranked Dominion won't change a thing.

You have to realize only a very small percentage of the player base (at least on NA) plays ranked Summoners' Rift (I can EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVELY put it at 10%). Getting up another queue don't do anything.

That person who is complaining about the lack of ranked Dominion Queue is very much misinformed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 07 2014 23:50 GMT
#1380
Half of the people who play LoL aren't even level 30, right?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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