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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On September 07 2014 21:27 AlterKot wrote: Balls continues to be the most overrated toplaner in na history. Or Dyrus the most underrated im not sure. dude, Balls like hard carried c9 in spring 2014 split. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 07 2014 22:16 Shiznick wrote: dude, Balls like hard carried c9 in spring 2014 split. Yeah, and SKTK was the best team in the world in Champions Winter. Old results are old. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 07 2014 22:34 Alaric wrote: He's consistent. Dyrus... not so much. And in Bo series, consistency and resilience to tilting are very important skills. Real? If Dyrus is hyped up about any part of his play, it's him being consistent. Only times I've remembered Dyrus tilting hard was S3WC. | ||
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kongoline
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 07 2014 21:25 IamPryda wrote: No name is trash, balls is a lot better then dyrus and mor is about as good of a support to vasili as space is an adc to madlife. And I am wondering if you ever actually watched a cloud 9 game if you think he is 5th or 6th. If you want berg and xyx 1 and 2 I'll give you it cuz hai champ pool is smaller but who else in na is better voyboy? I don't think so xwx, bjerg, pobelter, link. That being said. Hai too integral to how c9 works, impossible to replace. | ||
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On September 07 2014 23:56 wei2coolman wrote: xwx, bjerg, pobelter, link. That being said. Hai too integral to how c9 works, impossible to replace. No way link is better, and pobelter is questionable due to throwbelter. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 08 2014 00:09 Shiznick wrote: No way link is better, and pobelter is questionable due to throwbelter. link is better throughout regular season. not sure if playoffs was due to choking, or terribad team atmosphere. also, hai's ability to throw is just as bad as pobelter. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On September 07 2014 23:53 kongoline wrote: can somebody explain whats up with fiddle being almost perma banned in high elo kr soloQ, is he incredibly underrated on west right now? tons of fiddle mains in diamond 1 and challenger he just isnt banned here. def not underrated hes one of the junglers that can be 0-8 and still have a huge impact on the game with his massive amount of CC/damage | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
On September 07 2014 23:53 kongoline wrote: can somebody explain whats up with fiddle being almost perma banned in high elo kr soloQ, is he incredibly underrated on west right now? I guess its the same as rumble kinda. Even if you are behind you can WRECK in team fights/skirmishes pretty fcking hard. And against a good fiddle it is pretty damn annoying to play around his ult | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 08 2014 00:10 wei2coolman wrote: link is better throughout regular season. not sure if playoffs was due to choking, or terribad team atmosphere. also, hai's ability to throw is just as bad as pobelter. Keep in mind that during the regular season, he was coming back from a COLLAPSED LUNG. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 08 2014 00:19 Sufficiency wrote: I feel there might be some bugs with Fiddle tbh. He is doing way too much damage these days. No, he just happens to have good enough base damage that more releases haven't rendered him obsolete. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 08 2014 00:19 Sufficiency wrote: I feel there might be some bugs with Fiddle tbh. He is doing way too much damage these days. I think he just old and hasn't been tweaked in awhile. Keep in mind this is a jungler that was competitive against stuff like Oldschool GP, Oldschool Olaf, Oldschool Eve Innervating Locket Udyr, Triple HoG -> 6 items for free Poppy, Release Xin Zhao (Well, post his first round of nerfs), Doulbe E-Bug Lee Sin. The only reason he fell out of favour in the first place is because the S3 jungle changes kinda fucked single target junglers. But sice then they have increased being behind jungle XP, nerfed AoE jungling, buffed single target jungling, and nerfed the crap out of all those things while Fiddle has been kept identical to how he was before. Makes sense that he would be hella strong. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 08 2014 01:03 Scip wrote: I guess that explains all the choking Took the words right from my mouth. If you guys are you gonna argue who's the best and who isn't, and proceed to get really worked up over it, then use some evidence! This last page has just been people throwing around names with almost nothing to back it up. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On September 07 2014 22:59 Gahlo wrote: Real? If Dyrus is hyped up about any part of his play, it's him being consistent. Only times I've remembered Dyrus tilting hard was S3WC. Dyrus also tilted super fucking hard vs C9 in the spring split. Like, he went 1-7-1 as a Renekton in game 2 of the spring split vs C9 (about 2x as much as anybody else on his team). The thing about Dyrus is that when he tilts, he's like the biggest feeder ever. I think Balls is much more consistent than Dyrus, and the reason Balls had no lane pressure in these recent games of C9 vs TSM isn't because Balls is bad. It's because C9's whole strat was "Let's fuck over balls to give sneaky farm :D." | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
5HIT #1 MF NA Come at me | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 08 2014 01:35 ghrur wrote: Dyrus also tilted super fucking hard vs C9 in the spring split. Like, he went 1-7-1 as a Renekton in game 2 of the spring split vs C9 (about 2x as much as anybody else on his team). The thing about Dyrus is that when he tilts, he's like the biggest feeder ever. I think Balls is much more consistent than Dyrus, and the reason Balls had no lane pressure in these recent games of C9 vs TSM isn't because Balls is bad. It's because C9's whole strat was "Let's fuck over balls to give sneaky farm :D." Its not even farm, it was levels. High Level Kog > High Level Lulu was the idea. I think it smart. Just need top not have balls in a hard lose matchup as well. TSM was smart, because that strategy had Sneaky being a monster the whole playoffs and no other team picked well enough top make Balls look bad. | ||
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