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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 07 2014 05:08 GMT
#1301
On September 07 2014 13:56 eagle wrote:
how is amazing not top junlger if tsm just got first?

because, bjergsen is that good.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 07 2014 05:12 GMT
#1302
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 05:18:27
September 07 2014 05:17 GMT
#1303
On September 07 2014 13:56 eagle wrote:
how is amazing not top junlger if tsm just got first?

He is very inconsistent when it comes to applying early pressure for the champions he plays and, most notably in the playoffs, has absolutely awful smite control.

Being on an elite team doesn't make all it's players elite at their positions.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 07 2014 05:19 GMT
#1304
On September 07 2014 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 12:59 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 07 2014 12:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 07 2014 11:48 iCanada wrote:
Watching that Korean Soloqueue twitch stream.

Wtf... Koreans behind like 5k gold everyone just stands in fountain. The fuck.


they try to simulate real play as much as possible so they get good practice. they minimize joke games to reduce time wasted.


Being down gold isn't a joke game. It's being behind. Pretty sure it's because lots of them play in PC bangs so they don't want to draw out games since it's costing them money.

5k before 20 minutes is like 80% chance to lose the game. In competitive it's like 90%.


Is this an actual stat for solo queue?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 20:12:01
September 07 2014 05:26 GMT
#1305
On September 07 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?


Decent, not impossible though. I went from Gold 5 to Plat 2 in 2 months i believe with not many more wins than that. (Unless my memory is failing me).

edit: i really need to stop posting half asleep
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 07 2014 05:27 GMT
#1306
On September 07 2014 14:19 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 07 2014 12:59 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 07 2014 12:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 07 2014 11:48 iCanada wrote:
Watching that Korean Soloqueue twitch stream.

Wtf... Koreans behind like 5k gold everyone just stands in fountain. The fuck.


they try to simulate real play as much as possible so they get good practice. they minimize joke games to reduce time wasted.


Being down gold isn't a joke game. It's being behind. Pretty sure it's because lots of them play in PC bangs so they don't want to draw out games since it's costing them money.

5k before 20 minutes is like 80% chance to lose the game. In competitive it's like 90%.


Is this an actual stat for solo queue?

nah, just about what i've observed.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 07 2014 05:27 GMT
#1307
http://www.twitch.tv/lplen

Chinese regionals day 2, hype hype hype!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 07 2014 05:32 GMT
#1308
On September 07 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?


is it possible to know how many games/day he was playing before and after, I could see that happening to someone who just committed themselves
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 07 2014 05:39 GMT
#1309
On September 07 2014 14:32 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?


is it possible to know how many games/day he was playing before and after, I could see that happening to someone who just committed themselves


Only got snapshots at two time points, 3 months apart.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 07 2014 05:51 GMT
#1310
On September 07 2014 14:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 14:32 Slusher wrote:
On September 07 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?


is it possible to know how many games/day he was playing before and after, I could see that happening to someone who just committed themselves


Only got snapshots at two time points, 3 months apart.


Hard to say. I did silver 1 to plat 3 in one month and about 30-40 wins in season 2. Which is almost the same jump. Just took some dedication to get better.

But in general if seems pretty likely. Check him again later and see if his opponents have regressed
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 07 2014 06:13 GMT
#1311
On September 07 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?


Pretty damn likely. He'd need to have like an 80% win rate or something. If you get +25 LP per win and don't skip any divisions, you'd need 62 straight wins to go from G5 to D5.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 07 2014 06:22 GMT
#1312
On September 07 2014 15:13 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 14:12 Sufficiency wrote:
I have a hypothetical question.

If a guy was at 180 wins 3 months ago and Gold 5, then all of a sudden 3 months and 60 wins later he is Diamond 5, how likely do you think he got boosted?


Pretty damn likely. He'd need to have like an 80% win rate or something. If you get +25 LP per win and don't skip any divisions, you'd need 62 straight wins to go from G5 to D5.


This is an interesting way to analyze this. Thanks.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
September 07 2014 09:13 GMT
#1313
that caster in LPL
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 09:42:56
September 07 2014 09:42 GMT
#1314
On September 07 2014 14:17 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 13:56 eagle wrote:
how is amazing not top junlger if tsm just got first?

He is very inconsistent when it comes to applying early pressure for the champions he plays and, most notably in the playoffs, has absolutely awful smite control.

Being on an elite team doesn't make all it's players elite at their positions.

I found Amazing's early game satisfactory in all the games I watched
how much "!'pressure'!" a jungler applies depends on a lot more factors than just how good the jungler is
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 10:14:09
September 07 2014 09:56 GMT
#1315
Can anyone tell me where all the true damage is coming from in this game? As I see it, Lucian and Nasus shouldn't have done any true damage at all, Zed and Kha'zix should not have done true damage to minion/monsters/structures (their only source was Ignite) and Leona shouldn't have done true damage to champions (but Face of the Mountain explains the true damage to minions). Yet all of them are listed as having done small amounts of true damage to both champions and non-champions.

EDIT: Probably red buff.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
September 07 2014 10:02 GMT
#1316
On September 07 2014 11:42 Alaric wrote:
Getting into some ARAMs from an invite and having to deal with shit like Ziggs, or Gnar (manaless, no cd) + Janna + Urgot + Cass + Teemo, is one of the most cancerous ways to get back into the game after a 2 weeks break, I've found. :|

People are taking ARAMs way too seriously. Also, feels like playing against bots.


You'd be surprised at how many aram-only accounts there are. Personally I find the all bruiser arams the most fun anyway.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 07 2014 11:49 GMT
#1317
Kawaii Watch and Super manly Reach....
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=117891&vtype=pc
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 07 2014 12:08 GMT
#1318
Why do they give them lipstick? ._.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 12:29:10
September 07 2014 12:25 GMT
#1319
On September 07 2014 13:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 13:01 GolemMadness wrote:
On September 07 2014 11:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 07 2014 08:56 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 07 2014 08:50 PrinceXizor wrote:
LCS teams are like vultures picking the bones of the players that got popular early on in leagus history, while in korea teams seek new talent regularly. riot doesn't like a lot of roster changes as players leaving the scene may take fans with them, so the rules prevent turnover at a high rate, and everyone just takes each others scraps. to fill holes. no development of new talent happens in NA anyway, so whats the point of limiting imports if there is no NA development either way.



Look, SKT picked up Faker and his crew and all of a sudden they are world champion in ~1 year. While Faker's talents are definitely there, his crew were just that, Korean Challenger soloQ players. SKT built this team from scratch and became a winning team.

C9 is pretty similar to be honest. Someone assembled a team of Challenger players with very little competitive experience (what the fuck was Meteos doing before C9?) and made it the undisputed best team in NA. C9 didn't win World's (and probably never will), but C9 definitely demonstrated that NA has good players out thee.

C9 was a freak accident imo, they just happen to have extremely good team chemistry. Their team individually aren't that amazing.


Sneaky, Balls and Meteos are all top 3 players at their positions.

TSM: Dyrus, Bjerg, Lustboy, all best in position. WT is a fucking dice roll which shows up, Amazing is middle of pack.
LMQ: Ackerman (top 2-3), Noname (either a god, or retard, still not sure), XWX #2, Vasili #1, Mor is top 4.
C9: Balls (3rd, but not significantly better than 4th/5th), Meteos #1, Hai's like 5th or 6th best midlaner, LemonNation is mediocre, and Sneaky started off being the Cop of LCS, probably #2-3 now.

No name is trash, balls is a lot better then dyrus and mor is about as good of a support to vasili as space is an adc to madlife. And I am wondering if you ever actually watched a cloud 9 game if you think he is 5th or 6th. If you want berg and xyx 1 and 2 I'll give you it cuz hai champ pool is smaller but who else in na is better voyboy? I don't think so
Moar banelings less qq
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 07 2014 12:27 GMT
#1320
Balls continues to be the most overrated toplaner in na history. Or Dyrus the most underrated im not sure.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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